Ford Mustang: Z Max Any good? i saw carroll Shelby endorsing it on TV

I heard they got sued a few years ago because it was just mineral oil..

me wrote:
 

The FTC got on zMax's case for not being able to support their claims. Here
is the link with more info:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.htm

This happens to most additives out there, Prolong, Duralube, Slick 50, Motor
Up, etc. Also, this could void any warranty the manufacturer of the oil you
are using might have, because the chemical make up of the additive could
react badly with whatever formula the oil manufacturer is using.

I agree with the poster below, use a good synthetic.

BTW, what is wrong with BP? This is Amoco gas, which I was always told was
one of the better ones to use.

Mike
99 Limited Edition 35th Anniversary GT #4463
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"The Lube That Lasts!"


"Backyard Mechanic" <com> wrote in message
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I have hated BP since they were Sohio and Standard... Amoco is a recent
acquisition.

They used to advertise "No fuel line freeze-up Guaranteed>"

Yet the ONLY times (2) my fuel line EVER froze was right after a fill at
their stations...(tho I normally bought MArathon brands) but of course you
had to use Premium to get the guarantee.

Ive had several cars (and a few friends experience the same) that were rated
for regular... run fine on regular -EXCEPT BP- there you needed premium.

Took 2 years to convince my wife, that her gas probs with E150 351W was the
brand, not the car. Opening a local Speedway fixed that. Before that she
ran Premium because the van ran like shit on BP reg.

BTW, I have spoken to a few guys (early 80's) in UK that say the same.


They may be OKay now... but like Quaker State and Pennzoil, I will never be a
regular user because of their sins in the past.


Grim Jack opined in news:jUT2b.4218$tampabay.rr.com:
 
 

I can understand that reasoning. I've only started using them, because all
the Amocos I was going to either closed or became BPs. Then I saw they were
selling Amoco fuel and the two had merged. No problems yet. The
sandwhiches in these new BPs are pretty good too. :-)

Any idea who makes the gas at Sam's? Started using that a while back as
well, especially since I now drive 120 miles round trip for work and need to
gas up several times a week. The savings starts to add up. I was concerned
at first, but haven't noticed any problems running it, seems to perform like
the other fuels I use when I'm not near Sam's (mostly Amoco, Mobil, or
Chevron.

Mike
99 Limited Edition 35th Anniversary GT #4463
www.Technilube.com
"The Lube That Lasts!"

"Backyard Mechanic" <com> wrote in message
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In article <nU03b.6130$tampabay.rr.com>, Michael wrote: 

The way gasoline is shipped via pipeline makes it such that every station
gets the same stuff prior to putting in their brand's additives. The
additives added at the depot after the gasoline arrives there and
as/before it's put in the tanker are the only slim differences between
brands these days.

at 27 Aug 2003, Brent P [com] wrote in
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True. Not sure who makes Sam's gas but it does seem better than the
brand sold at Super Wal-Mart (Murphy USA) as that one does appear to
give us worse gas/mileage. About 10-15 miles on a full tank in my
wife's Geo. Which she uses for commuting 50 miles a day. Our vehicles
seem to get the best mileage using Citgo and Chevron. My Mustang likes
78 but mileage is a little less with that. None of the vehicles like
racetrack. gas/mileage really goes down (15-20 miles in said Geo) with
brand. Must be the additive package...

And yeah, I've seen a Citgo truck delivering gas to a Speedway
station. Kinda had me wondering what was in that tanker. :-)


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> The way gasoline is shipped via pipeline makes it such that every station 

THAT is TRUE!

I have a friend that works at a larger Fuel Depot in NJ. It's actually
directly across the Hudson River in NY where that Fuel barge blew up a
couple months back. The camera that took the footage of the initial
explosion was mounted in my friend's shop at the depot.

Anyways.... what you stated above is exactly what he says happens to our
Gasoline supply.

I used to be of the belief that larger gasoline companies would sell off
their "Bottom of the barrel" crap to the Off Brand companies. After talking
with my friend, I have NO problem going to an Off Brand station nowadays.

The BIG thing to consider when purchasing Gasoline for your vehicles is
OCTANE ratings! This has GOT to be one of the BIGGEST marketing successes in
modern history! The majority of folks that buy 93 Super Unleaded have
ABSOLUTELY NO need for the extra Octane!

Folks are lead to believe that the extra Octane Will ensure a better
running vehicle. You should only run as high an Octane to PREVENT
Detonation! Using higher Octane than that will (over time) cause engine
problems.

Higher Octane fuel burns SLOWER/COOLER (Less volatile) than Lower Octane
fuels. Higher Octane fuel WILL leave carbon deposits if it's NOT burned off
completely.

The ONLY way Higher Octane fuel helps is if the engines Timing is set to
take advantage of the decrease in detonation. Knock sensors also help to
reduce detonation.

Again. Only use an Octane high enough to PREVENT DETONATION! Anything
higher and your only lining the pockets of Oil Company Fat Cats. :>(

Here's the FAQs for Gasoline that PROVES these facts in detail.

http://www.85merk.com/members/katmandu/Gasoline%20FAQs/



ERIC

89 5.0 LX Vert, Cobra long block, 2.5" O/R H-pipe, 2.73s w/Locker
40 Series Deltas and some kinda Wild Assed Cam!

Check out the Ford Engine Heaven!
http://users.boardnation.com/~katmandu/index.php


"Brent P" <com> wrote in message
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A while back (several years) Consumer Reports sampled gas from all
over the country. They looked at a lots of samples and determined the
best gas was from either Mobil or Shell. I wish I had saved that
article. All I remember is that Mobil and Shell were the best, so I
always try to use them.

mort


On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:37:13 -0000, Backyard Mechanic
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