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  1. #1
    LCC
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    why no orange filters?

    I hadn't had a chance to read through the posts lately so I did some
    catching up tonight. About a week back someone posted a question about oil
    changes and I saw a bunch of comments about "no orange oil filters"

    I've been using "orange filters" for ever. I thought they were a pretty good
    product. I'm not a certified mechanic, just a backyard tinkerer. So have I
    been fooled by advertising all these years or??? Frankly, my opinion has
    been that most "wear" type items are better replaced by aftermarket parts
    than OEM's (brake pads, filters of all types, etc.)

    What's the general consensus??

    LCC



  2. #2
    Jim
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    My personal take....the orange filters are probably 'adequate'.... if you
    are religious about your sevicing. It has been quite some time since I
    dissected one but the one I did had less filter medium , a definitely
    inferior method of joining the pleats, and the bypass and anti-drain back
    valves were questionable.

    These are what I would class as "consumer quality" filters. At one time,
    Ford offered a similar filter, the CFL-1... since it was much cheaper than
    the FL1-A, consumers lapped it up. Since this filter is used less and less
    (new V8s taking the FL820S), Ford has fallen out of love with the bargain
    filter.... if consumers are still bringing their old iron to the dealer,
    they deserve a better filter.

    I'm not saying that orange is bad.... what I am saying is that there's
    better to be had....


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  3. #3
    IanCT
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    I think it's because they only offer "minimum" filtration.

    I usually go with the Tough Guard or Double Guard FRAM filter.
    I get MotorCraft if I can't find the correct FRAM.

    r/
    -IanCT


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  4. #4
    rakster
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    This persons findings on filters was enough for me to drop the orange:
    http://www.frankhunt.com/FRANK/corvette/articles/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html


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  5. #5
    Chief
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    For me, Fram filters are in the same class as Champion spark plugs. they're
    great for lawnmowers, but for anything else, they're sub-par.

    I always use Motorcraft Plugs, Filters, and even some specific lubes (rear
    end, etc).

    just my .02
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  6. #6
    Melman
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    In my '98 SOHC, I used orange filters for the first couple of
    oil changes, and noticed rattling at startup. Switching to
    Motorcraft filters reduced the rattling... telling me that the
    anti-drain valve in the orange filters were probably suspect.
    I have since had the 00M12 (cam chain tensioner) work done.

    I used an orange filter on my last oil change (with the black
    rubber grip... thinking it was a better quality filter... it probably
    isn't). I don't notice any rattling, but is that because the filter
    is better or because the 00M12 work got rid of the rattle?



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  7. #7
    LCC
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    Thanks to all for the feed back. It was enlightening to say the least.
    Special thanks to raster, there is more info on oil filters on those web
    pages than I imagine existed. I will definitely be looking at something
    other than orange filters for the next oil change.

    Since everyone had such good info on oil filters, how about air filters? I
    hear a lot of good and bad about K&N permanent air filters. I used to use
    their filters on my dirt bikes about a hundred years ago and they were all
    the rage. Now I question if all that good "flow through" wasn't letting in a
    little more than air. What's the general consensus?



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  8. #8
    bill@pipping.com
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:47:14 -0700, "LCC" <net>
    wrote:
     

    With a carb engine, the extra flow can lean out the mixture, giving
    better mileage.
    With feedback fuel injection (what the vast majority of EFI engines
    use), the extra flow is simply matched by more fuel. The only benefit
    of this is that you don't need to press so far on the throttle pedal.

    K&N filters must be allowed to get dirty before they match stock paper
    filters in filtration. IOW, they pass more dirt hwen clean than paper
    filters, and they plug up just like paper filters.
    Bottom line (IMO): K&N filters are no longer the benefit they used to
    be for daily drivers. They don't filter as well, and can't deliver
    more fuel mileage.

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  9. #9
    IanCT
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    Re: why no orange filters?

    That's the page I was thinking of earlier, thank you. I put it back into my
    favorites.


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