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Mazda Miata: Wheel Alignment

  1. #1
    Socket
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    Wheel Alignment

    Hi, I had changed the wheel for my 92 miata, but it seems like it's having
    some handling problem. So do i need to do something like wheel alignment?

    and also I want to ask is it safe to cut my spring to lower my car?



  2. #2
    Lanny
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    Re: Wheel Alignment

    In article <XGuSb.339880$X%5.194115@pd7tw2no>,
    "Socket Baby" <secret> wrote:
     

    Annual alignments are a good idea, regardless. The Miata responds very
    nicely to a precision alignment. Do it, but you might want to read my
    alignment page first (below).

    How much do your new wheels weigh? Heavy wheels hurt handling; I
    wouldn't use a wheel that weighed over 13 pounds on a Miata, or 15
    pounds at the most. OEM '92 alloys weigh about 12 pounds.
     

    Dunno if it's safe, but it's a bad idea, since you'll have little
    control over the new spring rate. Too soft, and you'll be bottoming
    constantly; too hard, and your handling will go away on rough roads.

    The stock Miata suspension has barely enough wheel travel to cope with
    ordinary driving, about 1.5 inches before bumpstop contact. If you drop
    the car an inch, you'll lose 2/3 of that travel, so you'll need much
    stiffer springs to stay off the bumpstops. Any time you stiffen springs,
    you also need to upgrade the shocks, or you'll bounce all over the road
    like riceboys in slammed Civics.

    Why do you want to lower your car? Yeah, it looks cool, but it's very
    easy to ruin the ride and handling, not to mention scraping on driveways
    and speedbumps. Miatas are already very low, especially early models.
    Lower than stock is only beneficial for track-only cars with very stiff
    suspensions.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  3. #3
    KWS
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    Wheel Alignment

    I recently stumbled across something on the web written by a fellow who
    claims to do his own wheel alignment. He went through a detailed and lengthy
    description of how he calibrates his garage floor, greases up a couple of
    floor tiles to put under the front tires, etc. and claims to do a better job
    than the guy you actually pay money to.

    Has anyone in this group actually done something similar to this? If so, I
    am really curious to hear about your experience and the results. It seems
    like one of those things that appears to be very difficult until you do it
    once. Once, which success, one would hope.

    Ken






  4. #4
    chuckk
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    Re: Wheel Alignment

    I'm a bit picky about alignment. First the average shop will do a "good
    enough" alignment, not a perfect one. I notice the difference. Next, a Miata
    can be annoying to drive when set to right down the middle of the various
    specs.
    Long distance driving on a crowned highway for instance. Autocross is
    another bag of worms from the alignment standpoint. Finally, if the rear
    alignment is not correct, "torque steer" can be very annoying. There are
    methods of alignment that rely on a very flat, level floor. They do work
    when done correctly. If that isn't bad enough, tires and alignment interact.

    "KWS" <com> wrote in message
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    job 



  5. #5
    dookie
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    Re: Wheel Alignment

    'torque steer' is a front-wheel-drive affliction.

    dookie

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  6. #6
    Pete
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    Re: Wheel Alignment

    interesting topic...
    I was about to ask what may be causing my recently acquired '94 to want to
    'drift' to the left under hard acceleration, then seem to revert to the
    right when letting off... don't notice this effect unless I really jump on
    it.
    I did notice the other day when cleaning the wheels, that the drivers (left)
    side rear wheel appears to be a tad farther forward in the fender opening
    than the right rear wheel. I guess it's off to the alignment shop !

    Pete Breemhaar
    Georgetown, Ontario

    "dookie" <dookie@-OBVIOUS-dooksucks.com> wrote in message
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  7. #7
    Lanny
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    Re: Wheel Alignment

    In article <DXLCc.5571$primus.ca>,
    "Pete Breemhaar" <net> wrote:
     

    That's almost always a rear tire going flat. Sometimes it's caused by
    mismatched rear tires--different brand or different diameter.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  8. #8
    Pete
    Guest

    Re: Wheel Alignment

    tires are identical and almost new... seller had left me all bills, which
    showed tires purchased just 10,000 kms (6000 mi) ago. I keep them at
    28psi... they aren't great tires, (really, they're crap) previous owner
    went cheap & put on General Tires, which look like they belong on a Toyota
    Echo. When I figure out what I want to replace them with, they're gone.
    I'm sure the difference in driving the Miata with decent tires will be
    amazing.
    Any thoughts on the reason for the wheel not appearing to be in the centre
    of the fender opening ??? left side is almost 1/2 inch closer to the front
    of the fender opening than the right side. No indication what-so-ever that
    the car has had any kind of rear-end or side collision.

    Pete

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  9. #9
    Leon
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    Re: Wheel Alignment


    How about getting your tape out and start measuring? Seems
    to me it should be straightforward to compare left versus right
    and see what is different. May want to jack it up and put it
    on stands first. Check that there is still a visible difference
    after you have done that, of course. Otherwise jack it down slowly
    and keep track.

    Leon

    "Pete Breemhaar" <net> wrote:
     

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  10. #10
    chuckk
    Guest

    Re: Wheel Alignment

    Not exactly so! It existed long before front wheel drive cars were common.
    Torque twists the chassis and the drive train. The alignment was sometime
    called by different names, such as "thrust" and always involves the rear
    axle. Part of the problem goes back to the engine torque that is applied to
    the engine mounts. One of these days, I'll get around to changing the rear
    bushings and engine mounts to stiffer ones.

    "dookie" <dookie@-OBVIOUS-dooksucks.com> wrote in message
    news:kB7Cc.65724$southeast.rr.com... 


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