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  1. #1
    The
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    Chris wrote: 


    Check http://www.rennlist.com and http://www.pca.org (though I do not
    think you can check the PCA classifieds without an account...

    ....yep. But my search for 993s with < 75k miles shows 27 hits, so you
    should prolly get an account.



    1 1996 35000 993 $50000 07/15/2004 —
    Details
    3.8L RSR motor built by AASCO, S-Car-Go headers, JRZ 3-ways, Big Reds,
    ABS, 2 sets Kinesis wheels, 1 set 996 Turbo Twists for rains, Halon fire
    system, Matter cage, GT2 bodywork (fiber and carbon), Sparco seat, Fuel
    Safe 27 gallon fuel cell, and more. Top-10 finishes at Pueblo, Hallett,
    and TWS. The car was serviced 02/2005 and the JRZs rebuilt. It's ready
    to race!


    2 1995 48,284 993 $37,900 03/13/2005 —
    Details
    1995 911 Cabriolet in excellent condition. 16" Cup Wheels, Hi-Fi 8
    speaker sound w/ 6 disk CD player, new battery, mats, windscreen. $37,900


    3 1996 22,745 993C2 Cabriolet 49,900 05/12/2005
    Details
    1996 Porsche 993 Cabriolet, polar silver/light gray lthr/marble gray
    top, 22,745 miles, 6-spd., very well optioned incl. 40% LSD, ABD, heated
    power seats, rear seat delete, special leather options, 17" rims, CD,
    keyless entry, serviced, never painted, all books & records, clean
    CarFax & AutoCheck reports, warranty & financing options available,
    offered at $49,900.00 obo. www.BuxtonMotorsports.com


    4 1995 55450 993C2 Cabriolet 38,900 05/13/2005
    Details
    1995 Porsche 993 Cabriolet, polar silver/light gray lthr/black top,
    55,424 miles, 6-spd., hi-fi sound, power seats, supple leather, polished
    17" rims, new battery, fully serviced, every books and service record
    from new, 45K service 06/10/2003 @ 42,488 miles, new top 2003, clean
    CarFax & AutoCheck reports, warranty & financing options available, new
    MSRP $76,297.00, offered at $38,900.00 obo. www.BuxtonMotorsports.com


    5 1996 25,700 993 Targa $39,500 05/27/2005 small camera icon
    Details
    Two owner, 993 Targa with Porsche Certified Inspection report (4/2005)
    and fresh service -- documentation available for both. Options include
    Motorsound package, CD, leather seating surfaces, 8-way power driver
    seat, 4-way power passenger seat, Porsche car cover. Car is tagged and
    inspected in Texas and includes recently installed Porsche aluminum
    shifter and brake handle ($1,000) and original shift/brake handle
    included with car. Clean title, no accidents, rear tires are 50%. Car's
    service history shows car received Porsche service update to Targa motor
    and it works perfectly.


    6 1996 17500 993 46400 06/30/2005
    Details
    First USA-spec, 5/95 build, believed to be Auto Show car. 17,500 miles,
    Blue, Gray interior – special order. (It's one of those wild autoshow
    paintjobs that looks purple under some light and blue under other
    lights.) Tiptronic S, DSP, IR Alarm, computer, litronics, htd full pwr
    seats, everything covered in supple leather including seat belt posts,
    visors, etc. 30+ options. Top and car work perfectly. The paint is
    original and has very few stone chips, no door dings. There is a die
    cast model of this very car, produced by the UT Company of Germany. This
    car will also be featured in a hardback book on the history of project
    993. UPDATE - 2nd place in class at 6/2005 Porschefest Concours! Score -
    281.8 of 285. Exterior - 99.5; Interior 74.3; Storage Compartment 49.4;
    Engine 58.6. It also won a people's choice trophy at Augusta on 7/1/05!


    7 1995 48,750 993 RS € 69,900 fob Germany 06/09/2005
    Details
    993RS (#795 from 1014 built) and first registered in February 1997 in
    Europe. The car is factory painted in ultra-rare Turquoise Blue (2 cars
    made) but also it has the additional 6,000 Euro ($7,500) upgraded
    Clubsport front splitter and "big wing" 3.8 rear spoiler and decklid.
    Complete engine rebuilt at 44,250 mls at PORSCHE with invoice. New
    tires, crashfree, repainted front bumper. This car has white dial
    guages, upgraded factory sport leather seats, the original 18" Speedline
    wheels, drilled pedals, DUAL AIRBAGS (req'd for DOT certification),
    power windows, RS door panels, RS/Cup adjustable suspension, A/C, ABS,
    Limited Slip, and all the goodies. This is an accident-free car with a
    full Porsche service history! Turnkey pre-purchase inspection (at
    Porsche) and import package available for interested US buyers.


    8 1996 38,100 993 $37500 07/14/2005
    Details
    1996 Porsche 993 Carrera 2, WP0AA2996TS322858, Polar Silver Metallic/
    Midnite Blue partial Leather, 38,100 miles, AM/FM/CD, Hi-Fi Sound
    Package, 5 CD Holder in console, Full power seat-left, 17” wheels w/
    Painted Crest Rim Caps, Eibach Progressive rate springs, Koni Sport
    front shocks, M030 ROW rear shocks, FVD adjustable rear sway bar,
    Weltmeister short shift kit, DAS removable roll bar, 5-point Simpson
    camlock belts, Robin Sun RSR mufflers Extra set of wheels for track use.
    $37,500. Dublin, OH


    9 1995 56200 911 - 993 33500 08/12/2005 —
    Details
    1 owner 993 cabriolet, excellent condition, 56,200 miles, garaged,
    never autocrossed, never wrecked, all services by dealer. Click website
    for lots of pics and details on the car.


    10 1996 73000 993 C4s 43950 06/15/2005
    Details
    C4s, Euro M-030 susp. Euro-spec align (Fordahl), New top end, clutch,
    brakes (Akers), New Bridgestone S-03 tires, motor sound package, Supple
    Leather, prem. sound, all reciepts.



    11 1996 21,875 993 Twin Turbo $79,950 07/24/2005
    Details
    1996 Twin Turbo, Black with full black leather interior and silver
    inserts, full carbon fiber package, aluminum dials, Nakamichi digital
    sound, 6 disk, aluminum door sills. Originally built for Ivan "Pudge"
    Rodriguez by Fred Baker Porsche. Power, suspension and body upgrades:
    TechArt, Gemballa, Strosek, B&B, Fiske, H&R. Excellent horsepower and
    torque, clean, mean and unique body look. Original sales price over
    $157,000. 21,500 miles later $79,950.


    12 1996 67000 993 C2 $36000 08/13/2005 —
    Details
    1996 Porsche C2 coupe. Six speed manual transmission, arena red with
    gray leather interior. New rear Michelin Pilot tires. Full power seats.
    Meticulously maintained. (Boston)


    13 1995 46481 993 coupe 38500 06/22/2005 small camera icon
    Details
    993 coupe in excellent condition, power leather seats, 17" sport
    wheels, carbon fiber dash and consol, only 46,481 miles, 45,000 miles
    service done, carfax cert title, warranty, state inspection


    14 1996 41000 993 39000 firm 07/28/2005 —
    Details
    garage kept, immaculate, no bodywork or paint, 100% original, no
    stories, All records. 3rd owner, new battery and tires. Ready to go. Car
    is like new. Photos available. Near Dallas, TX. Looking to buy new home.


    15 1996 40,500 993 $38k 08/16/2005 —
    Details
    1996 993, 100% original except new tires and battery. No paint, no
    stories, no mechanical issues, with receipts. Covered, garaged in
    Dallas. Car is ready to go. Email me for photos. Looking to buy new home.


    16 1995 39,750 993 RS € 58,900 FOB Germany 06/27/2005
    Details
    From the Manfred Freisinger collection a 993RS with original 3.8 liter
    motor, air conditioning, Porsche CR-21 radio, and dual airbags
    (necessary for DOT certification for street use). Crashfree car with
    fresh servicing and only 2 owners. Car includes Clubsport aero kit
    ($7,500 option) and new tires. Pre-purchase inspection available at
    Porsche dealer. Turnkey import package available for interested US
    buyers -- see our website for details on our service(s). The price for
    this car assume export from Germany to the US so VAT has been netted out.


    17 1996 9200 993 57,500 08/07/2005 —
    Details
    possibly the finest of its class left on the Planet. Heavily optioned
    collectors car. One owner, records, incredibly maintained and cared for.


    18 1995 44,500 993 C4 35,000 08/17/2005 —
    Details
    excellent condition, 6 spd, sunroof, full leather, sport seats,
    garaged, no oil leaks, 6 disc CD


    19 1996 32,746 993 RS € 66,900 FOB Germany 06/27/2005
    Details
    This is a chance to own a fully loaded 993RS in ultra-rare Riviera Blue
    (1 of 6 painted this color from the factory). This car has air
    conditioning, Clubsport aero kit ($7,500 option), power windows, "HEIGO"
    Clubsport roll bar behind seats, Porsche sport confort seats, TechArt
    airducts with fog lamps in front bumper, Porsche CR 11 radio, and new
    tires. The car is crashfree and has the 996 3-spoke airbag steering
    wheel (dual airbag equipped). The car has never been raced or tracked at
    DE's. Turnkey import packages available for interested US buyers,
    including pre-purchase inspection and test drive. Visit our website for
    details on our services.


    20 1996 48000 993 twin turbo 68000 08/07/2005 —
    Details
    extensive records all maint. up to date new clutch, turbos recently
    overhauled. Always garaged and adult driven and it shows


    21 1995 32,000 Carrrera 2 (993) 38,500.00 08/18/2005
    Details
    Tiptronic, 2nd owner car. All services up to date. All service records
    available. New Top in 2004, servos and transmissions motors replaced
    same time. Seals done on motor 2002. This is a clean, accident free, low
    miles stock car.


    22 1996 58000 993 C4s 42500 08/07/2005 —
    Details
    well maintained awd air cooled beauty. all books and records, great
    shape in and out. Always garaged and driven resposibly. Pics available.


    23 1996 10,713 993 C4S $62,900 08/19/2005
    Details
    Equipped with: Heated Seats, Wheel Rim Caps w/Porsche Crests, In-dash
    CD Player, Cruise Control, Power Sunroof, Sport Group. Enjoy the thrill
    of all wheel drive with this beautiful 993! The Arena Red Paint looks
    absolutely incredible. The interior shows extremely fresh. No curbed
    edges on the wheels. All electrical and mechanical systems are in proper
    working order. Books & Keys are included. Stock Number P2826. View all
    photos and our reference letters at www.premiercars.com


    24 1996 18,500 993 Turbo 77,000 08/09/2005
    Details
    No track, and excellent condition. Always pampered, stunning car with
    amazing speed. Completely stock car, no smoke ever. Just 18,500 original
    miles.


    25 1996 27,141 1996 993 Turbo $78,500 08/19/2005
    Details
    Equipped with: Full Leather Interior, Sports Seats, Hi Fi Sound
    Package, In Dash CD, Self-Dim Mirrors and Rain Sensor, Power Sunroof.
    One look at this car and you will see the meticulous care it has
    received. The Paint has a deep and incredible sheen to it. The interior
    shows extremely fresh. No curbed edges on the wheels and the tires are
    in excellent shape. All electrical and mechanical systems are in proper
    working order. Books, Records, & Spare Keys are complete. ask about
    Vehicle No. P2788. View all photos and our reference letters at
    www.premiercars.com


    26 1996 18,000 993 Twin Turbo $79,900 08/10/2005
    Details
    Absolutely Pristine! Equipped with: Supple Leather Full Power Seats
    Left and Right Heated Seats Left and Right Carbon Fiber Package Alpine
    CD Player 8 Disc CD Storage on Console Rear Window Washer System
    Stunning Color Combination! Just Serviced and 100 Point Inspected
    Performed. The 15k Service has been performed. Books, Service Records, &
    Spare Keys Complete Nationwide Delivery - Finance/Lease Options
    Available. .


    27 1996 9,200 993 Twin Turbo $82,000 08/12/2005
    Details
    Second owner of this immaculate gem. Factory carbon incl. wheel, no
    mods, digital sound + trunk cd, supple leather. Mature, meticulous
    owner, always garaged and pampered. Recently serviced, none finer, for
    the discriminating buyer that demands the best.

  2. #2
    Paul
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    Before writing the check, the 96-98 993's have had issues with emissions
    that can cost $5000 - $6000 to fix.
    This has been documented on the PCA.Org web site. See the except below:


    Although the 1996 & newer have superior suspension hardware, and other
    improvements, the 1995 has one big emerging advantage -- relative immunity
    to what is becoming an epidemic. That is of 1996-1998 993's coming down with
    the dreaded Check Engine Light for the Secondary Air Injection system
    airways getting plugged. Those passages can be cleaned with solvent and
    compressed air every 15k miles to prevent the problem, but once the carbon
    buildup hardens and sets in, it is too late. Since we did not know this was
    necessary, basically every car eventually fails state emissions testing.
    Except for the 1995 that is, because it did not yet have OBD-II onboard
    diagnostics and so it does not fail itself. The rebuild for the 1996 & later
    models will run in the ballpark of $6000, so this is a big deal if you live
    in a state doing emissions testing, or if you ever plan to sell the car.



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  3. #3
    The
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    Paul - SBC News wrote: 

    I have heard this, too. But what is the percentage of cars affected? I
    had not known this to be of epidemic proportions. I also thought
    Porsche was covering the fix for it, under the vehicle emissions
    warranty to 100k miles.


    DS
    1995! 993 Coupe

  4. #4
    Paul
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    Haven't seen any specific numbers or percentages (other than the number of
    postings on Rennlist and PCA.org).

    I have read that coverage by Porsche is not a given, it's addressed on a
    case by case basis.

    So the best case would be to do the techron wash before it clogs the
    secondaries.

    The cleaning is detailed on p-cars.com at
    http://p-car.com/diy/sai/1/sai.htm

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  5. #5
    william_b_noble
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    for what it's worth, my 993 is over 90K miles and hasn't shown this yet -
    only engine repair I've needed to do was change the valve cover gaskets.

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  6. #6
    Paul
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    If it's a 96-98, that's great news. So many times you only hear the bad
    news, not the good.
    Hopefully I can say the same at 90K miles!


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  7. #7
    william_b_noble
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    Re: What's up with the 95-96 993 Prices?

    it's a 97. what may be different is that for most of those miles, I drove
    long distances (45 miles each way) to/from work, so that may have kept it
    clean.
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