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Nissan Altima: What is this noise

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    Greg
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    What is this noise

    What is this noise?

    I have a 1993 Nissan altima that was given to me.

    This car was not taken care of very well. It has a lot of mileage on
    the car. It was low on oil, not out. Has not had an oil change in
    two years.

    I heard a rattle in the engine.

    I am trying to decide rusted out 88 ford escort and a 1993 Nissan
    Altima that needs work.

    The ford has everything replace except the engine. Which may be
    going bad. The ford is shaking, mainly at stops.


    Thank you for any help.


    Greg Rozelle


















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    E
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    Re: What is this noise

    The rattle is probably the timing chain. No oil changes is a bad thing on
    this engine. The chain tensioners stop working. Try changing the oil. If
    it quiets down, its OK, otherwise, go with the Ford.


    On 7/6/06 4:43 PM, in article uufrg.46$news.prodigy.net,
    "Greg Rozelle" <invaild> wrote:
     


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    Greg
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    Re: What is this noise

    On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:51:50 GMT, E Meyer <com> wrote:
     

    Thank you.

    Since a timing chain cost about $1000 to repair.
    If the oil keeps it quiet (not stop's the noise). Would it be safe to
    drive until March 2006 (Tax refund)? If I keep the oil changed?

    I am going to get a compression test done on the engine.

    Also,
    Is their anyway to test out the transmission?


    Greg Rozelle






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    E
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    Re: What is this noise




    On 7/7/06 6:57 AM, in article
    2%rrg.127410$news.prodigy.com, "Greg Rozelle"
    <invaild> wrote:
     

    March 2006? Shouldn't be problem, since its already July.

    If changing the oil quiets it down, then it means the tensioners were just
    starting to sludge up and the fresh oil allowed them the start working again
    (they are operated by oil pressure). If it quiets down after changing the
    oil, it will probably run forever.

    There was also a TSB on those engines, that corrects chain rattle by simply
    removing the chain guides (NOT the tensioner) from the top chain and
    throwing them away. You can try that yourself, the upper chain is
    relatively accessible.

    Test the transmission by driving it - does it shift smoothly & at the right
    times? If the previous owner didn't even change the engine oil, its
    probable that the transmission fluid has never been changed. Pull the
    dipstick on the trans and look at the condition of the fluid - pink is good,
    brown/black is bad. Burned smell is bad.


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    Greg
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    Re: What is this noise


    Thank You again
     

    Good. I can wait till March 2007 then.

     

    I am not a mechanic. I am surprised there are no side effects by
    removing the upper chain guide. Nissan should of done a recall and
    paid for this. If this was a maintenance notice, where could I
    download a copy. I may go ahead replace the tensioner as well.
    What about putting the bolts back in? I have read a little of this.

     

    It seems to shift fine. I will still change the transmission and
    other fluids.


    Greg Rozelle

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    Nissan4ME
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    Re: What is this noise


    Low oil can cause damage to the lifters, wear piston rings out and damage the crankshaft over time. If it runs okay, you could probably drive it with few issues in the short run, but if you buy it, get it checked out by a mechanic in your area. It's not easy to determine the problem without being there in person.

    My ex-girlfriend drove a 99 maxima that burned oil and she drove for a week low on oil, I told her to key an eye on the oil pressure guage and let me know when it drops below 40psi at highway speed, easy to keep an eye on, hard to educate a female
    The lifters made a clicking and the valves rattled a little. The new owner still drives the car today, but in your case, I'd get it checked to avoid buying more trouble than its worth. Even if it checks out okay, a mechanic might find issues that help you decide or give you amunition to negociate a lower price on either car

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    E
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    Re: What is this noise




    On 7/7/06 10:36 AM, in article
    Wbvrg.60692$news.prodigy.com, "Greg Rozelle"
    <invaild> wrote:

     

    You could try looking on Nissan-techinfo.com for the TSB. I'm not sure if
    they go that far back though.

    The upper chain is pretty short. It just runs from a sprocket at the base
    of the head and around the cams. It shouldn't hit anything without the
    guides. On later models, they left them out at the factory. I think it
    doesn't really qualify for a recall because its just a noise issue, there is
    no real danger of the chain breaking.

    Its been about 5 years since I changed the tensioner on my daughter's '95.
    I don't remember it being difficult to put back together. I had a Haynes or
    Chiltons when we did it and it covered everything we needed to know.

    You can't easily get to the lower tensioner or guides. That's the $1000
    job.

    One other thing comes to mind as I think back to the '95. The accessory
    belts also made a rattly sort of noise that sounded remarkably like the
    chain when they got old and the inner ridges started to chunk up. Take a
    look at the belts. You might get lucky & not have to mess with the chain at
    all.



 

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