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- 12-05 03:59 AM #1RSGuest
What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
Our 1994 Camry V/6 XLE with every option (leather, sunroof, etc.) is at the
dealership right now with the heads off. Both head gaskets blew at 170,000.
The dealership told us that the cylinder sleeves had dropped, and $7,500 is
necessary to repair the engine! Since this is more than the car is worth,
we obviously are not going to let the dealership repair the car.
To add insult to injury, the dealership now wants nearly $900.00 for tearing
the engine down in our junk Camry! We never approved any estimate, except
$2,300 for new head gaskets -- which they obviously have not done.
Besides calling a junkyard, what other options do we have?
I always believed Toyota's claims of "cheap to keep", but not for us! In
checking on the internet, it is apparent that the V/6 has not been a
reliable engine for Toyota owners. Using only Mobil 1 and changing the oil
and filter every 3,000 miles was a total waste of money for us. We would
have been better off buying a 4-cylinder Camry. And, a lot of Fords costing
1/2 as much will make 170,000 miles.
- 12-05 04:43 AM #2MikeyGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
- 12-05 01:50 PM #3WolfgangGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
I'm sure they'll slap some new head gaskets on and buttton it back up for
$2300. But where does that get you? Suspect they will negotiate on the $900
cost to tear it apart. Does seem rather high. You can get a used
(cheapest) engine, a new long block, or a rebuilt engine ($4k) for far less
than $7500 estimate. Other option is to trade it to them for a new/used
car - or sell as is for repair or parts.
Over 140k or so miles you take your chances (even extended factroy
warrantees run out at 100k) --- if you can do the work yourself it is
probably wise to hold on to them --- if not trade it while it still runs
good.
"RS" <com> wrote in message
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- 12-05 01:55 PM #4markGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
Your cooing system is to blame that is what failed . His price sounds
high so is his 900 to tear it apart , Complain, get a used motor
somewhere else
- 12-05 02:11 PM #5Philip®Guest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
In news:wgUzb.8173$yf.4824@fed1read01,
RS <com> being of bellicose mind posted:
This post smells like a troll. No Toyota dealer is going to tell you
"your cylinder sleeves have dropped" because the V6 does not have
removeable sleeves or even dry pressed cylinder sleeves.
You've also made a faulty link between the head gaskets and the
engine lubricant. One has no effect on the other.
So your post is quite obviously a troll. Why did you not cross post
it to some of the Ford groups?
--
* Philip
"I'm dreaming of a white Christmas,
Just like the ones I used to know"
-Bing Crosby
- 12-05 03:25 PM #6markGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
looking at the prices and problem you said I agree with Phillip, its a
TROLL
- 12-05 04:38 PM #7DaveGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
If you want to deal with the car, offer to pay them 400-500 for the tear
down tops. If they won't budge, tell them to keep it and walk away.
Otherwise put in a junkyard engine and sell it or drive it.
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- 12-05 09:46 PM #8LanceGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
170k MILES is plenty for a car, *ideally* it should last longer but you've
gotten your money worth! The ford *might* get up to 170k Miles but how many
other parts will make it...
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- 12-06 04:52 AM #9RSGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
Yes, I am a "troll". Although I am an ugly, disfigured dwarf, I believe in
telling the truth, even if Toyota doesn't like it. Go to:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288399503&congratulation_page=Y for
photos of my 1994 Camry V/6 with the heads removed.
If you click on the photos to enlarge them, you will note that the engine
does have cylinder sleeves! These sleeves have dropped a finger-nail
thickness. You will also note the crud buildup from the head gasket leaks,
which were never detected by my Toyota dealer, until the gaskets blew
completely last Saturday.
We plan to have an independent garage replace the entire engine with a used
engine imported from Japan at a price much lower than the $7,500 quoted by
our Toyota dealer.
Our Toyota is at Power Toyota, 9101 Research Drive, Irvine, CA 92618,
949-768-0688. The service advisor is Jose Gomez.
RS
- 12-06 05:29 AM #10RSGuest
Re: What to do with '94 Camry V/6 XLE?
Although 170,000 miles on an engine isn't bad, it does not meet the hype
about Toyotas. I frankly expected a lot better. My Toyota dealership told me
several times the last several days that the Toyota 4-cylinder engines have
a better longevity than the V/6 engines! Many of the 4-cylinders last
250,000 miles or more. I paid $10,000 more in 1994 for what I thought was a
better car with a better engine: a V/6 XLE Camry. Instead, I received a car
with an engine less than stellar, which engine is now headed to the junk
yard. Most American cars will reach 170,000 miles at a substantially lower
price.
In checking on the internet, the Toyota V/6 does not have a very good
reputation. The "cheap to keep" advertisement obviously does not apply to
the V/6 equipped cars. At 110,979 miles, I paid Irvine Toyota $2,545.34 to
replace 8 valve lifters, gaskets & valve adjustment shims, replace electric
antenna, replace inner & outer CV boots (left front axle), rear brake job,
and to reseal power steering pump. I have never before had to have engine
work done at 111,000 miles on any car I have owned.
Since around 100,000 miles, my Camry has had an engine problem that Power
Toyota (formerly Irvine Toyota) could never find: when the engine was cold,
it would run in "slow motion". The engine just would not accelerate
properly. When the engine warmed up, it would run fine.
Also, although the car has been regularly serviced at Power Toyota, they
never discovered the head gasket leak until the cloud of smoke became
horrendous last Saturday. My guess judging from the crud on the engine from
the leak, the head gaskets have been leaking for the past year or two. (That
doesn't say a lot for Toyota service.)
During 120,596 miles of driving the Camry, the total cost of repairs came to
$9,781.569. That is not "cheap to keep". My worst car ever (a 1991 Taurus
V/6 SHO) came to $16,132.07 for 124,275 miles of driving.
Will I ever buy another Toyota? I sincerely doubt it. (And, I certainly will
never, ever buy another piece of Ford junk.)
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