Saab: Well - its a 1994 NG900
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Well - its a 1994 NG900
Salutations:
Hope everyone had a great holiday, as regular readers will know I have
been looking for a new car since wiping out our beloved '89 9000T CD. It
was a long slog - but I've picked up a reasonable 1994 NG900 2.3 5 speed -
$2,600 cdn (apx $1,800 usd).
It has issues (of course) - and I would appreciate any thoughts before
running it though my wrench miester.
First - I get a distinct rattle around 2000rpm. It doesn't get louder or
quieter as the engine warms up nor does the engine rattle at cold idle
(thusly I don't think it's the chain) - is there anything anyone else can
think of - sounds like it's just behind the intake manifold or in the
pulley array.
Also - check engine light is on. This is a recent development (the car has
been on a back lot for about 12 months now) - so I'm guessing the OS
sensor is grounding out. Though, I've been reading that the loom itself
may be loosing ground on the intake manifold.
Finally - the ABS lights up about at 10k and stays on (with a delightful
'bing') - but brakes seem to work fine (with a little scrubbing noise).
On the whole - I'm thinking the machine is suffering 'lot rot' more than
anything fatal. I figure it'll keep up us rolling until I can find that
perfect aero/anniversary at a price I can afford - so - links, experiences
and comments welcomed as always.
Glad I was able to keep a Swede in the slip..
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
in article eastlink.ca, Dexter J at
org wrote on 04/01/2004 21:45:
Yay, Dexter's back on the block!
Not a bad price. Sounds like you'll have the "usual Saab fun" with it
getting it up to spec
Is the 2.3 the 225 BHP model?
Good luck with it pal,
Paul
1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
Salutations:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:31:28 GMT, Paul Halliday <co.uk>
wrote:
Thank you kindly.
It's a 2.3 non-turbo/non-leather/non-alloy edition I'm afraid - but - its
a very solid temporary ride until I can land a nice 9000 and I might be
able to get out for what I end up into it. Was very close to a couple 9000
Aero's stateside - but after exchange and customs fees they just didn't
make much sense. I'm going to strip out the 89 9000 2.0 turbo for the
power train, electrics, pumps and assorted rims/switchs and mothball all
of it in case a decent motorless 9000 comes up.
This NG900 isn't wonderful, but its doesn't completely sux either. I like
the dash set-up quite a bit and that black out button is very interesting.
Mostly - it's a 5 speed and a hatch with a key on the floor and I missed
all of them a lot on my 9000 CD.
As to the 2000rpm rattle - I wonder if it could be the water pump? It's in
the right neighborhood on the block.
Anyway - time will tell about this NG900. I'll keep everyone posted as to
developments and again - anyone else's NG900 experiences are welcomed.
Links? I've found the townsend site to be informative so far.
--
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
Paul Halliday wrote:
Quite. Nice to see you back Dexter. Sorry, not too much NG900
experience (only ever done a couple of jobs on my aunt's v6),
but good luck.
--
Grunff
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
"Dexter J" <org> wrote in message
news:eastlink.ca...
Well, if yours sat on the lot as long as mine did it may take a while for
some of the little stuff to work itself out. My 92 900 conv. sat on a lot
for nearly 5 years in Cleveland, Ohio. When I drove it home I had a severe
case of second thoughts. The heater controls didn't work the abs light and
the srs light was on and the engine seemed to be a bit off. After driving
the car around for a while the heater controls started working. The abs
light went out and stayed out. The srs light got unplugged. Changed the
antifreeze to the yellow MB stuff with a new thermostat and after a while
the engine seemed happier for some reason, no clue why. Good luck with the
new ride and be patient while the car reworks itself in.
dave
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
Salutations:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:29:49 +0000, Grunff <com> wrote:
Crap and a half - anyone want a cheap NG 900?..
..
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
Salutations:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:37:15 -0500, dave <net>
wrote:
Yeah - that's what I'm kind of thinking/hoping. Lots of dry sockets, brake
parts and connections here and there.
The rattle is worrying me, but I have been advised to try resetting the
ECU and see what happens. I've done a little reading and I think, maybe,
it might be a water pump. It's running a little hot (a little above half -
which is hot for a NG900 apparently). I'll have my shop give that a close
look tomorrow.
I must say that non-turbo 2.3 engine is actually quite strong - at least
this one is - revs up quickly too.. No exciting turbo rush - but then -
much better mileage.
The final tick in it's favor (after a pretty low asking price) actually
came down to the fact I really won't care as much about this one as I
would a really good example of a 9000T and thusly - I'm not going to worry
as much about having some fun with it. The suspension feels tight enough
for the model, wonder how it'll do in a on cone track.
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J Dexter - webmaster - http://www.dexterdyne.org/
all tunes - no cookies no subscription no weather no ads
no news no phone in - RealAudio 8+ Required - all the Time
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
Sun, 04 Jan 2004 21:35:23 -0400, org suggested:
:
: The rattle is worrying me, but I have been advised to try resetting the
: ECU and see what happens. I've done a little reading and I think, maybe,
: it might be a water pump. It's running a little hot (a little above half -
: which is hot for a NG900 apparently). I'll have my shop give that a close
: look tomorrow.
I have a 1995 n/a 2.3 NG900, and it generally runs a little above half on
the temperature gauge, but I've never had any temp related problems. I had
an A/C compressor fail on my old Honda that produced a pretty strong rattle.
: I must say that non-turbo 2.3 engine is actually quite strong - at least
: this one is - revs up quickly too.. No exciting turbo rush - but then -
: much better mileage.
Well, not really much better mileage in my experience, but I guess that
depends on your driving style.
City mileage is pretty mediocre, but I
was amazed when I got 33 mpg (US) on a long (1800 miles total) trip. 150
hp is plenty for me after driving a 1980s Honda for so many years.
--
agreenbu @ nyx . net andrew michael greenburg
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
Dexter J wrote:
Just remember -it is the first year of a model change. But, if it is
only a temporary ride until you can get a 9000, it should be ok.
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Re: Well - its a 1994 NG900
In article <eastlink.ca>,
org says...
Welcome back.
Glad you stayed with Aerospace engineering 
Give it the usual thorough service, clean the sensor connectors with
some contact cleaner or very fine emery cloth. See about getting the Ecu
reset as someone suggested, or try and find one of the "Gunsons" (uk
brand but must be something similar in Can/US fault code readers. They
clip onto the diag port, but just report the last fault found. If you
can get the code, you might find someone who has a clue what it means,
and start from there. Could be simply moisture in the oil/engine/exhaust
if it has sat for a while that is flipping a sensor out.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
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