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Mitsubishi: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

  1. #1
    wonderboy
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    Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    I have a 01 Dodge Stratus coupe. Now if you don't know, its the same
    platform as a eclipse (same engine and tranny). I called the dodge
    asking them what kind of fluid it needs and they said I only needed
    Mopar and had no idea what Diamond SPII was. I called a Mitsubishi and
    asked them what they used and they had no idea what I was talking
    about. So my question is Mopar a Equivalent to Diamond or should I
    use Diamond SPII.


  2. #2
    Bob
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    If the vehicle is a 2001 Dodge, the correct fluid is likely Chrysler ATF+4.
    I'd read the owners manual as it specifies exactly what is required. Also,
    ATF+4 superceded ATF+3, so if it came with ATF+3 and that is what is called
    for as the correct fluid in the owner's manual, then you can use either +3
    or +4. Do not use GM Dexron, even though the manual may state this is OK to
    top off in an emergency.

    My advice is to find out for sure what fluid to use and ONLY USE THE CORRECT
    FLUID. Chrysler transmissions are different and can be very finicky. Use
    the wrong fluid and you jeopardize having trans slip or torque converter
    shudder and will cause excessive wear and potentially premature failure.

    I do know that Chrysler made some transmissions for Mitsubishi. My 1991
    3000GT has a Chrysler made electronic 4 speed that specifies ATF+3 and that
    is what I have used.

    Bob

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    MisterSkippy
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 06:18:50 GMT, "Bob Shuman"
    <worldnet.att.net> wrote:
     
    Bob S is correct. Use the ATF=3. I went around in circles on that
    Diamond SPII business with my daughter's 2000 Mirage. One Mitsu
    dealership tried to sell me Mercron. Said that's what they use for
    trans servicing. I won't be going there for any work.
    Got the ATF+3 equivalency heads-up on this board and confirmed it with
    Quaker State. IIRC, the can says something along the lines of "for
    Chrysler vehicles and some Mitsubishi vehicles."
    Apparently there may be some issues with ATF+4 vs ATF+3 in older
    vehicles. Good link regarding that....
    http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
    FWIW
    YMMV
    DFB




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    wonderboy
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    This is an eclipse transmission and engine. I don't have the owners
    manual but I was told that I am spose to use Diamond SPII but no dodge
    dealership has this and nobody can give me a straight answer if its
    safe to use anything else.


  5. #5
    MisterSkippy
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    On 30 Jan 2005 18:11:00 -0800, "wonderboy"
    <com> wrote:
     
    Use the ATF+3. You can buy it at KMart. I used it when I changed the
    fluid in my daughter's car which called for Diamond SPII.
    ATF+3=Diamond SPII. There is your straight answer, which I confirmed
    with Quaker State via email. You can probably find the ATF+3 in a
    Diamond SPII bottle at a Mitsu dealer if you don't mind paying $7 per
    quart.




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  6. #6
    wonderboy
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    Thanks.


  7. #7
    geewhiz
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    MisterSkippy wrote: 

    I recently purchased the Mitsu Diamond SPIII at a Mitsu dealer near San
    Diego, and the fluid was $4.79 per quart, which is not much more than
    the $3.99 per quart at the local Auto Zone for ATF+3.

    I couldn't find any definitive crossover for SPIII to ATF+3, so I used
    the SPIII. I tried Dexron III, and got poor shifting from my 99
    Galant...flareup on 2-3 shift, and erratic shifts elsewhere, all of
    which went away when I drained, flushed, and refilled with SPIII.

    Gerard
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    MisterSkippy
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:06:11 -0800, geewhiz
    <"checkmywebsite"@bob2000.com for email addy> wrote:
     
    The price differences between 1 coast and another are considerable, so
    it seems. Local stealership is still charging $6.99 for the Diamond SP
    and the local KMart is charging $2.79 for the Quaker State ATF+3.




    "When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
    constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
    his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
    - Justice William O. Douglas

  9. #9
    MisterSkippy
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    Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:57:02 -0500, MisterSkippy
    <net> wrote:
     
    I want to make a correction. Further investigation based on responses
    from most of the major ATF manufacturers reveals inconclusive data. At
    this point I believe that using the Mitsubishi Diamond ATF is the only
    sure replacement. I resubmitted my query to Quaker State and they have
    contradicted themselves and now state that the ATF+3 is not a
    replacement for Diamond SPII. The other majors have responded
    similarly. It is my intent to use the now current Diamond ATF SPIII,
    the current version, for refill. If anyone has other ideas or
    information I would welcome it.
    FWIW
    YMMV
    DFB






    "When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
    constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
    his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
    - Justice William O. Douglas

  10. #10
    DFBonnett
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    Re: Re: Type of Transmission Fluid 3.0 / Auto

    "MisterSkippy1" wrote: 

    Further to the previous post, in a phone call to Quaker State tech
    service this AM, I was now told that the Multi-vehicle ATF from QS and
    Pennzoil meets the SP III spec which is now current according to
    Mitsubishi and has replaced the SP II spec. I went to yet another
    dealership and got some Diamond SP III which, according to the blurb
    on the package, is suitable for all Mitsu transmissions. They had
    stacks cases of it on the floor in the parts department so I am
    assuming this is what the service department uses. This is not the
    same dealership that tried to sell me Mercron to use in the Mirage
    trans.

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