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  1. #1
    Bacchus
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    Two-valve 308i

    A friend is considering his first Ferrari purchase, something in the
    range of, and with a bit more brio and gravitas than, say, a Honda
    S2000 (a supreme car, but you get what I mean).

    Realistically a 79-82 308 GTSi is the target:

    Please: Tell me what I don't know.

    Are there preferable years within the series (other than last being
    most removed from beta)?

    Which are the great white whales of NOS mechanical/body parts?

    Which is the holy grail interior bit?

    What's a clutch replacement going to cost (NY metro)?

    FORZA states a "not 100%-accurate reputation for burning oil", but
    can't be arsed to explain further?

    Metric tires: What the fuck were they thinking?

    Where do I find a copy of "My Ferrari's Roof Squeaks: Care, and
    tuning of the 308 GTS roof hatch, with choral arrangements"?

    24-yr old Koni's: To rebuild or replace (can they even be sourced
    new)?

    Which Mercedes used the same brake pads?

    How to lively up the old mare, without feeding her rice-a-roni?

    Too few miles - dry rot and ennui, too many miles - deferred
    maintenance snowballs: What's the mileage sweetspot on a 22/24-yr old
    308?

    TIA

  2. #2
    Iain
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

    "Bacchus" <com> wrote in message
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    If you ask nicely there are many people on Ferrarichat.com who can answer
    all your questions from first hand experience. Behave like an arse and
    they'll tell you to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

    I'm not aware of anyone who posts here regularly that is a GTSi expert
    (except probably T308 of course) - but if I'm not mistraken the GTSi is a
    bit of dog powerwise - your freind may be well advised to save a few more
    pennies for a QV.

    I.



  3. #3
    Paul
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

    "Bacchus" <com> wrote in message
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    By which you mean don't everyone say 'No, no, choose the carb or QV'.
    Well, I'm going to say it anyway, because its the main piece of advice
    you should give your friend. I drove all three main variants before
    getting a QV. I understand what the Carb Crew mean, but the QV just
    pulls better. The 'i' was noticeably less inspiring.
     

    See above ;-)
     

    I believe that Ferrari have a commitment to continue to make available
    *all* parts...

    ....of course they do this via third parties, and only when there's
    sufficient demand. Sounds like fuel pipes are an issue. Your chum
    should join the owner's clubs, that way he should be able to access
    lists of parts as they become available. Another thing to bear in mind
    is that given the cost of the parts and the ...ahem... 'hefty' nature of
    the construction, many items can be successfully re-conditionnned.

     

    Probably the plastic bits and swtichgear. Otherwise you can have entire
    interiors re-finished. Actually, I've just remembered that electric
    mirror switches went off the list a few years ago and I don't think have
    come back.
     

    More cylinders burn more oil in my experience (of a couple of V6s and a
    couple of V8s). My 80k miles (ish) 308 drinks maybe a litre every 2,500
    miles.
     

    God knows. I've replaced my wheels with look-alike imperials, now I can
    run Goodyear Eagle F1s (very nice!)
     

    I'm not sure there is one. Plenty of glossy guides, but other than
    that... find a friendly expert.
     

    Dunno!
     

    Dunno!
     

    A 'sports' exhaust system seems to be where most people start.
     

    See above ;-)

    -Paul



  4. #4
    Bacchus
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

    On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:49:41 GMT, "Iain Miller" <me> wrote: 

    Yeah... Not hanks. I already have mastered the correct spelling and
    use of a tow hook.


  5. #5
    Iain
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

     

    Your choice.......but I think a case of "cutting your own nose off to spite
    your face" as we say over here. I guess you'll just have to take the long
    way around to find the answers you want. Still, if you wish to continue to
    make judgements about a site you alledgedly never visit far be it from me to
    dissuade you from that.

    I.



  6. #6
    Bacchus
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

    On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:07:47 GMT, "Iain Miller" <me> wrote: 

    Hey... Asshole:

    I don't go there anymore.
    I did go there.
    I had a good look around.
    I discovered it to be full of ignorant, unread, self-laudatory and
    -congratulatory, spoiled assholes.

    ....Just your type, apparently.


  7. #7
    Iain
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    Re: Two-valve 308i


    "Paul Duffin" <com> wrote in message
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    ROFL....and when it suits them
     

    Some not available from FUK but basically all available from aftermarket
    sources (Gates etc).

    Dizzy caps for 308's & 328s are apparently rarer than rocking horse shit at
    the moment though & there are some Dinos for which there are no rotor arms
    available and cars off the road because of it according to Mr L at QV.

    I.




  8. #8
    Iain
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

     

    You'll also find it full of people who are bright enough, smart enough &
    therefore funded enough to own a Ferrari. There's probably a few people who
    were born into their money too - but hey, good luck to 'em - or does that
    kind of thing really bother you as well? And before you make yet another
    crass & erroneous assumption, I have the paychecks in my filing cabinet that
    funded my Ferrari - how 'bout yours???

    Of course there are also other genuine, polite, enquiring and sociable
    non-owner enthuiasts on F-chat who are also always made welcome when they
    contribute.

    Come to think of it I'm not sure you fit into either category really do you?

    ........but one last attempt to help - try searching the F-Chat archives
    (both the current and the old ones) you'll find more information in there in
    15 minutes than you ever knew about what's good bad & indifferent about
    pretty much any model you can name from the 70's onwards. Not to mention
    "How-to's", work arounds on parts, sources of parts, tips, tricks & traps,
    performance modifications & the pluses & minuses of them etc etc etc. If you
    want to know about older stuff then Tom Yang's website tends to be where
    those owners gather these days.

    There is also a mixture of fact and opinion - which is no different to any
    other information source. Its not generally too difficult to sort out one
    from the other. If you really can't bring yourself to look then then
    www.Ferrari-talk.com is also packed with good information in the archives.

    (the above 2 paras posted for anyone else who might remotely be interested
    in good sources of data & information)

    However, if you can't be bothered to search or don't understand how to
    execute a search properly then there's not much anyone can do to help you
    here.

    Other than that, it really is time you found that analysts phone number &
    sought some help for your "compulsive, aggressive, on-line disorder" - yes,
    I just made that up but it seems to fit quite well.

    ....and I think the expression I need here is "Fuck you, you utter, clueless,
    rude, useless, "wannabe", underachieving wanker".

    On you go sunshine, I just cant wait for the next Frusciante pearls of
    wisdom. DO hurry back & share them with us - I'm sure the assembled company
    just can't wait - we are of course hanging on your every word.

    ....and in case you missed it, yes, basically I said "Fuck you and the horse
    you rode in on" - and you can take that home & stick it where the sun
    doesn't shine you asshole.

    I.
    (who sometimes tells it like it is, but hasn't quite reached that point here
    just yet - we're just getting mildly warmed up.)




  9. #9
    Bacchus
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

    On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:02:38 GMT, "Iain Miller" <me> wrote: 

    Q.E.D.



  10. #10
    Paul
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    Re: Two-valve 308i

    "Bacchus" <com> wrote
     

    Oh well, I give up. I thought you were coming back in here with a
    serious request for help, from a group who have once again proved
    themselves to be willing.

    I should have been surprised that Iain offered all that advice,
    considering how unpleasant you've been to him, but I'm wasn't, because I
    know what a good man he is.

    I shouldn't have been surprised by your response, but I was. I guess I
    need to get away from my naive 'there's some good in everyone' attitude
    and learn that some people are just fundamentally nasty.

    I'm sure you won't give a damn but that's the last time I'll try to help
    you.



    -Paul














 
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