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  1. #1
    Artur
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    treating stone chips

    Hi there

    The hood of my wife's black coloured 1996 Toyota Corolla shows some stone
    chipped spots, some of which look brownish (i.e. they started to rust I
    assume).

    I purchased a touch-up paint, but before I apply it, I would like to know
    what people recommend I should treat these spots with.

    A fellow at the dealership told me to get rid of the surface rust with a
    "metal cloth". The other guy told me not to do that so that I do not
    increase the size of these dots.

    Is there any paste that is good for this? Should I use a Dremmel tool to
    carefully remove this rust?

    Any comments are appreciated.



  2. #2
    Dave
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    Re: treating stone chips


    Artur Roytburg <ca> wrote in message
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    There are products that convert rust to a good paint base, such as Duro
    Extend. Just apply a dab to each chip and the rust is converted to a black
    polymer substance.

    Dave M.



  3. #3
    Bruce
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    Re: treating stone chips

    On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:00:43 GMT, someone who calls themselves
    "Tegger®" <invalid> wrote:

     

    If you want a closer color match than the touch-up bottle (and a lot
    easier to dip the brush) you can go to the auto paint counter at a
    good local parts shop (NAPA San Fernando does this) and have them mix
    a half-pint of the exact paint for your car, including an allowance in
    the mix for the fading which the touch-up bottle doesn't have.

    They also have the right primers and thinners for it. Put a
    tablespoon of paint in a small stainless bowl (restaurant supply) and
    add a few drops of thinner to get the consistency you want.

    Then you find someone with an airbrush to do the top-coat to get the
    patched spot a little less obvious, make the mask an inch bigger than
    the nick and fade the new paint in a half-inch or so over the old
    paint. I suppose you could also airbrush some clearcoat on, too.

    No matter what you do the patch will never really disappear (unless
    you have a body shop paint the whole panel, and that's bucks), but if
    you back off 5 feet and don't notice it, it's a good job.

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    Tegger®
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    Re: treating stone chips

    Bruce L. Bergman <INVALID> painstakingly
    pecked in news:com:
     


    <snip involved but surely effective steps>

    Bruce, you clearly do not have the number of stone chips we have in snow
    country. I've driven your roads. Due to the fact that you do not lay down
    millions of tons of sand and gravel on your roads every winter, your roads
    are amazingly free of such grit. There's some, but it's NOT the same.

    I touch up at least a dozen chips every few months, even in the summer.
    After the first dozen or so, you just either give up entirely or do it the
    quick-and-dirty way just to get it over with.

    The hod on my Integra was blasted woith so many chips my first year of
    ownership, I threw up my hands and gave up on it, which was not wise.
    Eventually I had a lot of rust. Got the hood repainted, then started taking
    care of it. What a pain.


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    Tegger®
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    Re: treating stone chips

    Bruce L. Bergman <INVALID> painstakingly
    pecked in news:com:
     


    <snip involved but surely effective steps>

    Bruce, you clearly do not have the number of stone chips we have in snow
    country. I've driven your roads. Due to the fact that you do not lay down
    millions of tons of sand and gravel on your roads every winter, your roads
    are amazingly free of such grit. There's some, but it's NOT the same.

    I touch up at least a dozen chips every few months, even in the summer.
    After the first dozen or so, you just either give up entirely or do it the
    quick-and-dirty way just to get it over with.

    The hod on my Integra was blasted woith so many chips my first year of
    ownership, I threw up my hands and gave up on it, which was not wise.
    Eventually I had a lot of rust. Got the hood repainted, then started taking
    care of it. What a pain.


    --
    TeGGeR®

  6. #6
    John
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    Re: treating stone chips

    I have some paint chips on my white Camry and I've been doing the
    following to fix them.

    1. Get a 3M Rust Avenger (Pep Boys carries it for sure).

    It a marker like thing that releases a grey fluid that converts the rust
    into something non-destructive (forgot the chemical composition).

    When you're done avenging, the spots will look black.

    I don't suggest a Dremel as the Rust Avenger will do a good job without
    you risking further damage.

    2. Get some Plasti-Kote touch-up paint for your body color (they made
    the Toyota Super White color for my car which is perfect).

    3. Get some Mothers "CALIFORNIA GOLD® PAINT CHIP REPAIR"

    (First item you see on this link:

    http://www.mothers.com/products/productcatalog/paintprod.html

    )

    You avenge the spots that are rusty, then dab some touch-up paint, then
    use the Mothers to rub the excess that inevitably forms on the paint
    off.

    You repeat the touch-up and Mothers steps multiple times until you have
    paint that's nearly level with the body paint, then maybe do clear coat
    and use the Mothers stuff as the final pass.

    I suggest letting the touch-up paint dry for 20-40 minutes, before using
    the Mothers stuff.

    This is a *VERY* time consuming process if you want it to come out well.
    The Mothers stuff works really well for small chips but for larger ones
    you end up seeing the edges some. For black color paint, you'll be OK
    because it's hard to see the eges. With white, it's pretty easy to
    spot...

    Good luck!

    John.


  7. #7
    John
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    Re: treating stone chips

    I meant to add in my previous post, that you should make sure the areas
    you want to touch up are very clean after the avenging process. I
    suggest you use a lint free cloth with some isopropyl alcohol to clean
    them up.

    John.


  8. #8
    Tegger®
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    Re: treating stone chips

    John <com> painstakingly pecked in
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    Rust Avenger or other phosphoric acid rust converter will NOT convert the
    rust that is under the paint at the periphery of the chip. You must Dremel
    the paint off at least 1/16" all around, otherwise in a couple of years it
    will spread further and begin to bubble.


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    TeGGeR®


 

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