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Mazda Miata: Transmission tunnel heat

  1. #1
    J.B.
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    Transmission tunnel heat

    While driving my 90 (which I got last year) I notice a good amount of
    heat from the the tranny area inside the car and the stick itself gets
    pretty warm..
    Engine temp is o.k. and car runs and shifts fine.
    Is this normal?
    Thanks in advance.
    John


  2. #2
    Lanny
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    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    In article <fOLCc.34425$srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
    "J.B." <NET> wrote:
     

    Replace the two rubber inner shift boots (under the cosmetic vinyl
    boot). Instructions in the miata.net Garage section.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  3. #3
    J.B.
    Guest

    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    Thanks for the tip.

    Lanny Chambers wrote:
     


  4. #4
    Chris
    Guest

    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    It seems some miatas will still have an issue with this even with good
    boots, not sure why the difference. One possibility is that the clearances
    are so tight between tranny and tunnel side wall on some cars that it still
    transfers thru. I believe it could be producing extra heat from old crappy
    and possibly low transmission fluid. I would highly suggest that you drain
    and refill the tranny with Redline synthetic or equal. This will generally
    smooth the shifting action as well.

    Chris
    92BB&T

    "Lanny Chambers" <net> wrote in message
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  5. #5
    Lanny
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    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    In article <supernews.com>,
    "Chris D'Agnolo" <net> wrote:
     

    Next thing to check is the heater air mix door adjustment. The shop
    manual says to set it so it opens fully, but on many Miatas that means
    it won't close all the way. Remove the glovebox, wiggle the temp lever,
    and it's obvious what needs adjusting. It's a 10-minute job.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  6. #6
    Leon
    Guest

    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    "Chris D'Agnolo" <net> wrote:
     

    Maybe driving style. Having just driven a few thousands of miles
    with torn boots, I find that the amount of heat generated by the
    gear box is much larger in low gears than in higher ones. It
    confirms the usual assumption that gear box power losses are
    almost nil in 4th, but considerable in 1st.

    Leon
     

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  7. #7
    Lanny
    Guest

    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    In article <com>,
    net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
     

    Telegram for Leon of Florida from William of Ockham:

    The higher the road speed, the more cooling air flows between the
    transmission, catalytic converter, etc., and the tunnel.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  8. #8
    Don
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    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    In article <supernews.com>,
    "Chris D'Agnolo" <net> wrote:
     

    Someone mentioned that they'd gotten a "lemon" 626 (It was never made
    clear what the year was, but the conversation we were having centered
    around my '82), and one of the "signs of lemonhood" this guy complained
    most (and quite bitterly) about was the amount of heat transferring
    through the passenger side floorboard and tranny tunnel area. I've
    experienced some of that in the 626 - The heat can get *INTENSE*,
    sometimes enough to make reaching for the shifter and coming up with a
    handful of metal shaft rather than the plastic knob QUITE unpleasant, to
    say the least. I'd been working on the idea that it was somethign in the
    tranny "being sick", and somehow dumping a mega-mess of heat into the
    metal of the shift lever, and was worried about what might be getting
    ready to die on me. The guy I was talking to claimed that the heat was
    coming from the two cats that are right under the passenger floorboard.
    Since hearing about this, I've been trying to figure out a way to
    insulate between the cats and the floorboards (There's already a heat
    shield - pretty cheesy, but at least it's there) in a way that won't get
    rattled loose/blown away/pulled out, or otherwise "lost", or stop
    working once it gets soaked (which it will, no question about that, when
    wet season rolls back around again).

    Perhaps this same thing is applicable to the Miata?

    --
    Don Bruder - net - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004.
    I respond to Email as quick as humanly possible. If you Email me and get no
    response, see <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html> Short
    form: I'm trashing EVERYTHING that doesn't contain a password in the subject.

  9. #9
    Leon
    Guest

    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    Lanny Chambers <net> wrote:
     

    Telegram for Lanny:

    1) I have seen authorative sources that put the gearbox losses
    at a significant percentage in lower gears and at *zero* for
    fourth. Unless you have solid data to show those sources wrong,
    I have to go with the established authorities.

    And it unavoidably implies that heat generated is an order of
    magnitude smaller in 4th than in 1st. Unless you have solid data
    to show the 1st law of thermo wrong, of course.

    2) I did not say that the gearbox *was a bit cooler*, I said
    that "the amount of heat *generated* by the gear box is *much
    larger* in low gears than in higher ones." This was based on
    the observation that the gearbox's excess temperature was
    *an order of magnitude smaller*. The difference in driving
    speed cannot explain that.

    3) Moreover, I am sorry to have to say that the high gear cool
    gearbox was with the top up (interstate). The low gear was
    with the top down. Little cooling air passes through the
    top. That there would be a big cooling flow along the
    bottom of the car seems to violate both mass conservation
    (of course, maybe some air was converted into energy,
    raising temperature,) and the fact that the flow would
    likely separate rather than enter the tunnel to a significant
    amount.

    4) Please do not use mumbo-jumbo voodoo magic like "Ockham's Razor"
    and other nonscientific claptrap on me. While even scientists
    use that sort of thing to win discussions, they have absolutely
    no evidential basis. Quite the converse; if you think that
    the simplest/shortest/whatever solution is the right one, you
    simply indicate that you have absolutely no idea what has been
    happening in science in the 2000 years since Aristotle.

    Leon

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  10. #10
    Lanny
    Guest

    Re: Transmission tunnel heat

    In article <com>,
    net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
     

    I wasn't referring to the flow under the car. Air enters the engine bay
    through the radiator, and some of it exits through the tunnel, past the
    transmission (perhaps less if you've removed the splash pan). You're
    thinking too hard about this, Leon.

    I'm having a hard time imagining the transmission, in any gear,
    radiating more BTUs than the cat. I can see the tranny absorbing heat
    from the cat, though. Cats run hotter under lean conditions--maybe
    that's a clue?

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html


 

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