Toyota Trucks: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
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Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I can
get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver area.
Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and 11,000
feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and poor
towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
180-190k miles on them.
Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
clearance (leaf springs).
Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability is
good.
I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP, newer
(HO) engines have 190, I think.
I know little about the Toyotas. Where can I find specs on 1990-1994
4-runners like weight, power, etc.
Anyone here have owned both?
Thanks in advance,
Charles.
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Re: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
That second generation of 4Runner also included 1995 if I'm not mistaken
(http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/History/history_4runner.htm has a 4Runner
timeline)
I found a spec sheet on the 95 year but haven't dug much on the web for the
prior years. http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-final.cfm?ReviewID=200
I know you've not asked for info on the 1996, but here goes anyway. It was
the start of the third generation, and is the year of 4Runner I have. They
have more cargo area than prior years and more backseat legroom. Manual
tranny seems to be a rarity and in high demand for any year, but we managed
to get one. No complaints on snow chain installation from me, but then I
don't know what's considered hard and what's easy since this is the only
vehicle I've ever put chains on.
The 2.7 litre 4cyl in 1996 actually has
more torque than the earlier v-6's IIRC (96's v-6 has more power than
earlier as well.
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=2804&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=0)
My mileage per gallon is pretty close if not dead on what this spec sheet
shows: http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-final.cfm?ReviewID=274 and I've
proof to back it up. The past 4 years of fill-ups documented in a notebook
and calculated in a spreadsheet (ok, I got bored one day and played with
Microsoft Works.)
Haven't had to work on the engine, but it's not too cramped in there, easy
to change the oil, etc.
If you don't like the lack of power in your old Cherokees, you might want to
stick with 1996 4Runner and later. The price might not be all that low
however. Toyotas seem to hold their value.
BTW: The 1994 Jeep's specs
(http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=1525&trimid=-1&s
rc=VIP&tab=2&sub=0) show it to have more torque than my dinky 4 cyl and
either of the v-6's. Might not be the most important thing on your peeve
list though.
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"Charles Stoyer" <com> wrote in message
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Re: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
I've had both ('94 4runner SR5 and 1991 Larado Limited).
In the Jeep I had problems with lack of power for accelaration from stop to
interstate speeds and nearly non-existant towing power versus excellent
acceleration on the 4runner and decent towing power. The 4runner had
virtually nothing for rear legroom, but cargo space on both vehicles was
decent. I had numerous transmition and transfer case problems with the Jeep
and nary a one with the 4runner. As for gas milage, neither were very
good... the Jeep got about 18 to 20 and the 4runner averaged around 21-22..
But that being said, the Jeep was ready for retirement after about 4 years
where as every Toyota I've ever had you can beat it into the ground and it
will come back begging for more for years!
"Charles Stoyer" <com> wrote in message
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Re: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
"Charles Stoyer" <com> wrote in
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You can find lots of 'yota details at www.yotatech.com.
2nd generation has a 3.0 liter that is semi-affectionately called a 3.slow.
Not a speed demon. It also quaffs gas instead of sipping it. You might be
better off with a 3rd gen unless you are handy and want to maybe do an
engine swap (which I'm contemplating if my 3.slow ever dies.)
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Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis
exponebantur ad necem.
(In the good old days, children like you were left to perish on
windswept crags.)
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Re: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
"Charles Stoyer" <com> wrote in message news:<net>...
you can get a bunch of info from the guys at yotatech.com or
4x4wire.com. but in general, the 1990-1994 4runners fall in the 2nd
generation (1990-1995). they had two options for the engine:
22re: 4cyl about 120hp if you're lucky. but it's a bullet proof
engine. i have an '89 4runner (1st generation) with a 22re with 228K
miles and it has never given me any problems. i live in longmont, so
i drive into the mountains with it. heading up towards the eisenhour
tunnel i need to use 3rd gear much more than you'd think, and i spend
alot of time under 50mph, but i never worry about getting stuck or
anything.
3vze: v-6 about 150hp. it's not as bullet proof, they had a head
gasket recall which toyota was really good about. it's a nice engine,
but more complicated than the 22re, so more things to break.
neither engine has a whole lot of power, but both are better than the
I-6 from jeep. if you want gobs of power to tow stuff up I-70, then
you're gonna need to get an F-250 or an excursion diesel.
mike
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Re: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
"Charles Stoyer" <com> wrote in message news:<net>...
you can get a bunch of info from the guys at yotatech.com or
4x4wire.com. but in general, the 1990-1994 4runners fall in the 2nd
generation (1990-1995). they had two options for the engine:
22re: 4cyl about 120hp if you're lucky. but it's a bullet proof
engine. i have an '89 4runner (1st generation) with a 22re with 228K
miles and it has never given me any problems. i live in longmont, so
i drive into the mountains with it. heading up towards the eisenhour
tunnel i need to use 3rd gear much more than you'd think, and i spend
alot of time under 50mph, but i never worry about getting stuck or
anything.
3vze: v-6 about 150hp. it's not as bullet proof, they had a head
gasket recall which toyota was really good about. it's a nice engine,
but more complicated than the 22re, so more things to break.
neither engine has a whole lot of power, but both are more reliable
than the I-6 from jeep. if you want gobs of power to tow stuff up
I-70, then you're gonna need to get an F-250 or an excursion diesel.
mike
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Re: Toyota to replace Jeep Cherokee?
In article <google.com>,
Mike Deskevich wrote:
I have 2 4runners, one with the 22re and one with the V-6. I also have
an I-6 Cherokee. Neither of the 4runners have the power of the I-6.
The *only* good thing about the Cherokee is the I-6.
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