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Mazda Miata: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

  1. #1
    glenf
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    Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    Time has come for new tires on my '94 in 185/60-14 size (or maybe
    195/60-14). I'm looking at Sears who carry both the Yokohama A550 (the 195
    is cheaper by $7/tire than the 185!) and the Kumho 716 which is just over
    $200/set. Are the Yokos worth the extra $50 to $80 more than the Kumhos?
    I've heard good reports on both.

    net 94 "C"



  2. #2
    Leon
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    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    "glenf" <net> wrote:
     

    I assume you have checked the product reviews on miata.net and
    tirerack.com.

    Leon

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  3. #3
    glenf
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    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    Yes!
    "Leon van Dommelen" <net> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    195 



  4. #4
    DonB
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    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    FWIW, I just picked up 4 Falken Azenis in 195/60-14 from Vulcan Tire
    at $202 shipped. So far, they're sticking like glue! A treadware
    rating of 200 leads me to believe I won't get much more than 20K or so
    on 'em, but they're cheap enough that I won't mind replacing them more
    frequently than a longer-lasting tire.

    DonB


    On Wed, 05 May 2004 05:00:42 GMT, "glenf" <net> wrote:
     


  5. #5
    glenf
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    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    Don - I have read some of the comments on the tire sites from people using
    Falken Azenis and they all say that they stick like glue, but ride a little
    rough and are terrible in the snow. Tread wear also seems to be a big issue
    with some of the more aggressive drivers looking at 10,000 miles!! When you
    add about $20/tire for mounting, balancing, etc. it works out to about 3
    cents/mile if you only get 10,000. Report back with your mileage when you
    get to half tread or so. Thanks for your comments.
    net
    "DonB" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    (the 
    over 
    Kumhos? 



  6. #6
    Lanny
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    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    In article <Xsxmc.10074$news.pas.earthlink.net>,
    "glenf" <net> wrote:
     

    10k is actually very good. Most drivers report 5k to 8k out of a set of
    Azenis. Considering the more-frequent mounting and balancing, they're
    not all that cheap, are they?

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  7. #7
    DonB
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    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    That's why I consider the MX5 my "toy" car, the one in which I have
    fun. It gets put away in the snow, as does my motorcycle. Out comes
    the Geo Tracker and I go pretty much anywhere I want, and STILL put
    the top down! I can afford to be lavish with my "toys" and so went
    into the Azenis purchase with much insight (a lot of it provided by
    the Lannys and Leos of the group, thankfully). In my case, I couldn't
    justify spending twice the amount on a tire (Toyo T1S) that would last
    about as long and be just as good in the snow. As far as mileage
    goes, I'll give a report as I gain 'em, but don't consider myself an
    aggressive driver and don't, to this point, autocross. I have yet to
    break traction since I installed the Azenis, but again, I'm not that
    aggressive.

    While I derive much direction from this group, my trust level in
    anyone falls far short of my own experience, and I'll eventually
    develop what's best in my personal situation.

    BTW, I have the same theory on Miatas as I do motorcycles--neither is
    effective as primary transportation. I have a 12-string guitar that
    won't fit in the trunk of my Miata, and since I frequently combine
    driving to gigs in my Miata, that's a fairly serious problem. I get
    to take a pretty lady in the passenger seat, or my guitar. Now that's
    a poser (for a musician who knows the guitar frequently leads to the
    ladies).

    DonB



    On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:48:21 GMT, Lanny Chambers
    <net> wrote:
     


  8. #8
    glenf
    Guest

    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    Don - Well at least the Tracker let's you take both!
    "DonB" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    little 
    issue 



  9. #9
    DonB
    Guest

    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    Yeah, but you wanna hear the real catch 22? The Tracker don't impress
    'em half as much as the MX5!

    One other thing I would have liked in the Azenis--they only come in
    195/60-14-- I would have preferred the 195/55-14 the Toyos provide,
    but since I'm already riding lower than stock, maybe it was a good
    thing. Living rurally on a farm is not the best setting for a lowered
    car. The average roadkill in these parts tends to coat the underside
    with a sickening mess. Squirrels ain't so bad, but I gotta judge the
    level of decomposition of groundhogs, possum, and the like.

    One other point--since, like many, I'm new to Miatae, each experience
    tends to be rewarding (short of flipping the thing). For instance,
    since I'm not that aggressive, I've been finding myself totally wussed
    out in trying to break traction with them. I'm definitely able to
    corner significantly faster than on my old, worn Eagle GTs (which were
    on the car when purchased). The experience also led to a better
    understanding of the treadware rating system. The Azenis are rated at
    200, while almost every other tire I've seen locally, even performance
    tires, are over 300. Passenger tires in these parts seem to be over
    400. If anyone has a fuller, better explanation of the system, I'd
    like to hear it, especially with experience.

    DonB

    On Fri, 07 May 2004 14:17:20 GMT, "glenf" <net> wrote:
     


  10. #10
    Lanny
    Guest

    Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716

    In article <com>,
    DonB <com> wrote:
     

    The treadwear rating system is not quite worthless, but almost. Each
    manufacturer makes up its own scale, so it's not possible to compare
    numbers across brands except in the most general way. It's a marketing
    tool, not an engineering analysis. The best rating system is the Reviews
    section of miata.net.

    BTW, consider taking a track or autocross school to learn how to get the
    most from your RWD Miata. With sticky tires, it's shockingly easy to get
    in over your head faster than you realize. You need to learn about the
    laws of physics, which, sadly, still apply to Miatas.

    I'll bet your pretty lady would be honored to cradle your 12-string
    tenderly in her lap... :-)

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html


 

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