Mazda Miata: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
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Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
Time has come for new tires on my '94 in 185/60-14 size (or maybe
195/60-14). I'm looking at Sears who carry both the Yokohama A550 (the 195
is cheaper by $7/tire than the 185!) and the Kumho 716 which is just over
$200/set. Are the Yokos worth the extra $50 to $80 more than the Kumhos?
I've heard good reports on both.
net 94 "C"
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
"glenf" <net> wrote:
I assume you have checked the product reviews on miata.net and
tirerack.com.
Leon
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Leon van Dommelen
Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
Yes!
"Leon van Dommelen" <net> wrote in message
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195
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
FWIW, I just picked up 4 Falken Azenis in 195/60-14 from Vulcan Tire
at $202 shipped. So far, they're sticking like glue! A treadware
rating of 200 leads me to believe I won't get much more than 20K or so
on 'em, but they're cheap enough that I won't mind replacing them more
frequently than a longer-lasting tire.
DonB
On Wed, 05 May 2004 05:00:42 GMT, "glenf" <net> wrote:
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
Don - I have read some of the comments on the tire sites from people using
Falken Azenis and they all say that they stick like glue, but ride a little
rough and are terrible in the snow. Tread wear also seems to be a big issue
with some of the more aggressive drivers looking at 10,000 miles!! When you
add about $20/tire for mounting, balancing, etc. it works out to about 3
cents/mile if you only get 10,000. Report back with your mileage when you
get to half tread or so. Thanks for your comments.
net
"DonB" <com> wrote in message
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(the
over
Kumhos?
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
In article <Xsxmc.10074$news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"glenf" <net> wrote:
10k is actually very good. Most drivers report 5k to 8k out of a set of
Azenis. Considering the more-frequent mounting and balancing, they're
not all that cheap, are they?
--
Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
That's why I consider the MX5 my "toy" car, the one in which I have
fun. It gets put away in the snow, as does my motorcycle. Out comes
the Geo Tracker and I go pretty much anywhere I want, and STILL put
the top down! I can afford to be lavish with my "toys" and so went
into the Azenis purchase with much insight (a lot of it provided by
the Lannys and Leos of the group, thankfully). In my case, I couldn't
justify spending twice the amount on a tire (Toyo T1S) that would last
about as long and be just as good in the snow. As far as mileage
goes, I'll give a report as I gain 'em, but don't consider myself an
aggressive driver and don't, to this point, autocross. I have yet to
break traction since I installed the Azenis, but again, I'm not that
aggressive.
While I derive much direction from this group, my trust level in
anyone falls far short of my own experience, and I'll eventually
develop what's best in my personal situation.
BTW, I have the same theory on Miatas as I do motorcycles--neither is
effective as primary transportation. I have a 12-string guitar that
won't fit in the trunk of my Miata, and since I frequently combine
driving to gigs in my Miata, that's a fairly serious problem. I get
to take a pretty lady in the passenger seat, or my guitar. Now that's
a poser (for a musician who knows the guitar frequently leads to the
ladies).
DonB
On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:48:21 GMT, Lanny Chambers
<net> wrote:
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
Don - Well at least the Tracker let's you take both!
"DonB" <com> wrote in message
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little
issue
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
Yeah, but you wanna hear the real catch 22? The Tracker don't impress
'em half as much as the MX5!
One other thing I would have liked in the Azenis--they only come in
195/60-14-- I would have preferred the 195/55-14 the Toyos provide,
but since I'm already riding lower than stock, maybe it was a good
thing. Living rurally on a farm is not the best setting for a lowered
car. The average roadkill in these parts tends to coat the underside
with a sickening mess. Squirrels ain't so bad, but I gotta judge the
level of decomposition of groundhogs, possum, and the like.
One other point--since, like many, I'm new to Miatae, each experience
tends to be rewarding (short of flipping the thing). For instance,
since I'm not that aggressive, I've been finding myself totally wussed
out in trying to break traction with them. I'm definitely able to
corner significantly faster than on my old, worn Eagle GTs (which were
on the car when purchased). The experience also led to a better
understanding of the treadware rating system. The Azenis are rated at
200, while almost every other tire I've seen locally, even performance
tires, are over 300. Passenger tires in these parts seem to be over
400. If anyone has a fuller, better explanation of the system, I'd
like to hear it, especially with experience.
DonB
On Fri, 07 May 2004 14:17:20 GMT, "glenf" <net> wrote:
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Re: Tires: Yoko A550 vs Kumho 716
In article <com>,
DonB <com> wrote:
The treadwear rating system is not quite worthless, but almost. Each
manufacturer makes up its own scale, so it's not possible to compare
numbers across brands except in the most general way. It's a marketing
tool, not an engineering analysis. The best rating system is the Reviews
section of miata.net.
BTW, consider taking a track or autocross school to learn how to get the
most from your RWD Miata. With sticky tires, it's shockingly easy to get
in over your head faster than you realize. You need to learn about the
laws of physics, which, sadly, still apply to Miatas.
I'll bet your pretty lady would be honored to cradle your 12-string
tenderly in her lap... :-)
--
Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
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