Pontiac: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
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Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
I like the performance of the Grand Prix GTP but feel GM should be able to
make that kind of power with out needing to add on a Supercharger. The
japanese cars such as Maxima are making that power with just normal
aspirated fuel injection. The GM non supercharge 3.8 is a slug. I like
pontiacs but I dont want to have to have a supercharger just to keep up with
a Maxima, not only that the 2004 GP took a dump in the styling department,
they look like Oldsmobiles. If I wanted an Oldsmobile I'd by one, I dont
want an Olds with a Pontiac emblem glued to it. Whats going on with
Pontiac anyway did they hire new help and cant afford a real automobile
stylist or are they dumping all of there money in a foriegn car with a
GTO nameplate.
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
In article <supernews.com>, com
says...
Here we go again with the maxima bs...
Ok first off you like everyone else cant seem to figure out that the
maxima uses a 10 to 1 compression. That means it needs high octain gas
just like the supercharged 3800! Does it sound so efficient now? If not
read on.
Heres the facts:
Supercharged 3800
260@5200 hp
280@3600 torque
18/28 mpg
1 cam 2 valves per cylinder.
Maxima SL
265@5800 hp
255@4400 torque
20/27 mpg
4 cams 4 valves per cylinder.
Wow look at that worthless 4400rpm torque. Way up high where its not
needed. The 3800 for being a push rod motor that has roots going back to
the 60's I say its beating the snot out of that Nissan whatchamacallit
motor that wont be around more than a decade. Plus if you go driving
anywhere above sea level the forced induction wont wimp out. Perfect for
mountain-ess areas like West Virgina.
Thats just a few advantages for going with a 3800. The other is the
parts can be had anywhere and everywhere for a domestic and the cost is
often far less. Looks of the GP can be debated for years but not factual
numbers. Not sure where you get the Olds styling at... To call the 3800
a slug is being ill informed. People buy HP but they drive with TORQUE!
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
Santini wrote:
Style is in the eye of the beholder but torque is measurable.
And a plain old pushrod engine has plenty of low end torque,
which is exactly where it is needed for driving in a typical
American city. Not much Autobahning in Houston.
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
Bon-ne-ville wrote: Here we go again with the maxima bs...
LOL !!
A friend of mine in Ohio bought a used 1994 Maxima in 1996. When I saw
him that summer he told me about this great car and I asked " Is that
the Maximum or the Minimum you've got there ? "
LOL !
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE, 3800 V6
_~_~_~_~274,329 miles_~_~_ ~_~_
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
Paul mentioned that there is " Not much autobahning in Houston ."
You mean them thar Texacans ain't driving like mad men in their
SilveRAYdo's with steer horns mounted on the hood?
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE, 3800 V6
_~_~_~_~274,329 miles_~_~_ ~_~_
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
Harry Face wrote:
Nah. Too much traffic. The big fad now is to have a large
number of trailer hitch balls on the back bumper. And a couple
on the front bumper, too.
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
"Santini" <com> wrote in message
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with
department,
So you think the 3800 Na is a slug eh? Well compared to a wound up 4
cylinder it is! But compared to other 6 cylinders, well I don't think
so..... My 92 Bonneville SE with the EGRless 3800 NA engine was fast enough
to beat most cars around. 
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
"DeathRat" <ca> wrote in message
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enough
It's a nice engine, I read somewhere that a F-Body with the 3.8 could keep
up with or pass a Mustang GT.
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
The 3.8 is tried and true. It's a work horse, and has proven itself.
"Santini" <com> wrote in message
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with
department,
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Re: Is it Time for GM to upgrade there V6 Engines?
"Phillip Schmid" <com> wrote in message
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Aint no way in hell unless its running on only 6 cylinders. Have you driven
a GT?
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