Toyota Camry: Think I will keep my old Camry...

People like you are ruining the economy. Go out and get a 5 year loan
and buy the most expensive Lexus you can find.



"ROBMURR" <com> wrote in message
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I only drove 160 K miles. I drive on propane.
My car will be 6 years old in Febr. 2004.
Similar experience like you.
I think I go on for another 6 years!

Zwerius Kriegsman
The Netherlands.

"ROBMURR" <com> wrote in message
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nonono, he is contributing to the economy by saving up his money in the
banks and hence contributing a greater cash flow to the economy.


"Art Begun" <com> wrote in message
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With Camry's and other reliable cars, the major reason you want to get
another car/year model is if you get bored with your Camry. If not,
more power to ya.

--Ibrahim

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I've got 140,000 on my '91 DX. No signs that she's giving out on me any
time soon!

Josh

Tell us about that propane stuff. It sounds interesting. How did you get it
to run on propane?


"kriegsman" <nl> wrote in message
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It's quite common in our country to use propane as fuel.
My estimation is that 5-10% of the cars use propane.
I think maybe 60-70% of the fuel stations sell propane.
You can just go to your dealer and ask for an LPG-installation to build in.
It contains a propane tank (in my case 70 litre) which can never be filled
for more than 80%. There's an automatic fillstop at 80% for safety.
Offcourse the tank has a safety valve (blowing off to the outside of the
car) set at 16 bar (as faras I know). I' ve never noticed it was operating.
But it shouldn't offcourse.
There's a propane pump inside the tank.
There's also a level indicator on the tank (and the one on the dashboard,
for petrol, is used for propane when you drive on propane). You can choose
whether you drive on petrol or propane by a switch.
Then there's the propane line ofcourse from the tank in the trunk, to the
motor compartment.
There's an electromagnetic valve and from ther it goes to the propane
injectors in the intake manifold.
The principle is the same as with the fuel injectors for petrol, but they
are for higher pressures ofcourse.
Then there's the electronic's box, to which the lambda-sensor is connected
and from where the propane injector's are controlled.
It's more or less an identical system as used for the petrol injectors.

Advantages of propane:
very clean fuel (oil is staying clean for a long time)
cheap fuel (in our country about ? 0,35/litre compared to ? 1,10/litre for
petrol)
you can drive a long distance when you use both, petrol and propanetank

Disadvantages of propane:
it takes a part of the trunk
the car is getting heavier
in our country we have to pay more roadtax when we drive on propane. But
when you drive a lot, the low litreprice wins :-)
installationcost (which in my case was about ? 3,800)

Hope this is enough information for you?

Best regards,
Zwerius Kriegsman

"Mercury" <net> wrote in message
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Interesting. Thanks for the information. I would do it if the initial costs
were not so high.


"kriegsman" <nl> wrote in message
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in. 
operating.