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Toyota Prius: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

  1. #1
    Mike
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    Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

    Everyone in the Prius community who reads this newsgroup or any of the
    mailing lists and web forums knows about increasing your tire pressure
    to increase mileage. Hell, I'd heard about and been doing that for
    years on my previous cars, too, just not to as high a degree as now.

    Yesterday I had a flat tire, took it to a tire store to be repaired
    (ended up needing it replaced, but that's another story). The manager I
    dealt with asked if I was aware that my other tires were at 40+ psi, and
    I told him yes, that it was intentional for better mileage. He
    understood and even explained how it works to another customer who was
    standing nearby, after telling the mechanic to reinflate the tires as I
    had them.

    Well, the mechanic came out front a minute later and "explained" that
    the tires are only rated for 35 psi and that overinflating them would
    cause the sidewalls to give out. I said okay and drove off, then of
    course inflated them to 42 front/40 rear on my own as I'm accustomed to
    doing anyway since the Toyota dealership never gets it right. It just
    gets me that this guy would say something like this when, right on the
    tires, in raised lettering, it says the maximum pressure is 44 psi.

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    mark_digital©
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure


    "Mike Rosenberg" <invalid> wrote in message
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    I don't understand why you would want to sacrifice comfort and stability by
    increasing the tire pressure beyond the recommended amount for the car
    itself. And as for the tires being rated for 35 psi I'm sure he really meant
    the car not the tires.
    When you over inflate the tires ground clearance increases too so it's
    questionable whether you gain mpg. Air resistance might offset the less
    rolling resistance. Ultimately all you may have gained is a rough hard ride
    and premature weakening of the front end.
    mark_


  3. #3
    Michelle
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

    In article <com>,
    mark_digital© <com> wrote:
     

    Because it doesn't sacrifice comfort or stability. Experience shows
    this.
     

    It may be questionable--everything is questionable--but it does gain
    mpg. Experience shows this.

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  4. #4
    Mike
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

    mark_digital© <com> wrote:
     

    If I didn't feel the ride was comfortable, and especially if the car was
    less stable, I wouldn't keep the tires at 42/40, but my ride is
    perfectly comfortable and stable that way.
     

    Oh no, he absolutely meant the tires when he talked about their
    sidewalls not be able to handle anything above 35 psi.
     

    This isn't something I've just made up, and it's not just common
    knowledge in the Prius newsgroups, mailing lists and forums, it's
    something I've read about for years. Increasing tire pressure up to
    near the maximum rating increases fuel efficiency.
     

    I don't have a rough hard ride.
     

    Never had any problems in my previous cars.

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    Kubalister
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

    mark_digital© wrote: 

    What have you been smoking????
    Cars themselves do not have a maximum tire pressure, they only have a
    maximum recommended wheel/tire dimension. The pressure limit is set by
    the tire manufacturer to keep it within the required dimensions and
    physical stress limits of the material used.
    For your interest the Prius is shipped everywhere else in the world
    outside of the U.S. with Michellin Energy tires which have a maximum
    pressure of 51 psi which many drivers use (and the ride is NOT
    noticeably rough at that pressure).
     

    With that statement you obviously DON'T have any experience in inflating
    the tires to higher levels on the Prius. If you did you would KNOW that
    it DOES improve mileage performance.
     

  6. #6
    mrv@kluge.net
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

    I'll just note that the inflation over the Toyota recommended pressures
    35psi front, 33psi rear, started back with the Classic Prius. Many
    owners noted premature tire wear, particularly on the edges (which is
    usually an indication of running the tires at too low a pressure).
    (But a few stuck to the Toyota recommendations and didn't notice any
    problems.) Many owners then tried increasing their tire pressures up
    to the max. cold pressure on the OEM tires (Bridgestone Potenza RE92
    XL) of 50psi, and then backed down to where the ride felt comfortable
    for them, which was usually in the 40psi range (add 2psi in front). A
    nice side benefit of longer tire life was slightly better fuel economy.
    (These OEMs would typically wear out by 30,000 miles.)

    When the NHW20 Prius came out, people just followed the recommendations
    that were there for the Classic. US OEM tires (Goodyear Integrity)
    have a max. cold pressure of 44psi. Again, a few have reported uneven
    edge wear...

    I have yet to see a report from a Prius owner reporting uneven center
    tread wear, indicating that the tires are overinflated.


  7. #7
    Bill
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure


    <net> wrote in message
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    Mine have been at 42/40 for the past 10K. Tires were rotated at each 5K
    service interval. According to my 15K service report tread wear is uniform
    across the surface.



  8. #8
    OscartheGrouch
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure


    "Kubalister" <spam.here> wrote in message
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    I *think* he was making a joke.



  9. #9
    Mike
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure

    OscartheGrouch <com> wrote:
     

    I didn't get that feeling at all and still don't. What gives you that
    impression?

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    OscartheGrouch
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    Re: Stupid tire store conversation about air pressure


    "Mike Rosenberg" <invalid> wrote in message
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    Because his statements were kinda out there. Let's let him tell us if he was
    or was not. In the meantime don't chew my ass jerk. I'm just making an
    observation.




 

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