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Nissan Maxima: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

  1. #1
    Bitsbucket
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    Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    Hi Guys,
    I'm getting a CEL (96 SE with 138K miles) that is indicating a problem with
    the knock sensor and the EGR....are they usually related? Would the EGR
    problem cause the kncok sensor problem, or am I looking at 2 unique
    problems?
    Thanks, Bitsbucket
    Oh, and if it is the EGR should I try cleaning or replacement, I had seen
    you tell someone else here to clean the connection ports to the EGR that the
    upper manifold had to be removed...is there a way to check it first? I don't
    want to pull the manifold if it is not nessessary, and if the ports are
    clogged, is there any way to run a flexable cleaning tool through it like a
    flexable rifle bore cleaning rod rather than remove the upper manifold....I
    have some gun cleaning kits that have flexable bore rods....


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    Bitsbucket
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    Oh,
    I may not be here to get the answer, as I am in the strike zone for
    Francis.....may have to RUN! If I do I'll be in Atlanta, I may come buy ans
    see your shop Steve....where are you located? Didn't you say your around
    Conyers??? I'll have my 97 Max with me and would like to get you to look at
    it. (The 96 SE is my daughters)
    Thanks
    Bitsbucket


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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems


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    The knock sensor CEL is often tripped by other sensors. A bad knock sensor
    is also not a problem in the short term, expensive to replace. So it's a
    good idea to trace/solve the other CEL (EGR in your case) and wait to see if
    the Knock sensor throws codes on its own, later.
     
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    I don't have my FSM with me, so my best suggestion is groups.google.com and
    maxima.org to see if it's been covered before.

    Dave



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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    im in the path too bits.

    I'll get back to ya on this one


    I will be boarding up tomorrow



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    Joe
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    FWIW, I know three people (including myself) who have had bad knock sensors
    on this generation of Maximas. Seems to have a limited lifespan.

    For future reference, I was able to replace the sensor without removing the
    intake manifold by using the right combination of ratchet extensions and
    universal joints.

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    Steve
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     

    Nope probably has both problems, the knock sensor doesn't set the CEL.
     

    The CEL is being caused by the EGR, probably a clogged intake passage.

     

    It's not the valve itself, it's the passge in the intake.
     

    Not really, that's the only problem I've seen so far though.
     

    No.


    BTW the knock sensor might just need the connections cleaned.
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    Steve
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     

    Nope, in scottdale, near decatur area. See the map at our website.

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    Bitsbucket
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    So Nissan decided to have the computer NOT throw a CEL for a knock sensor,
    but it will throw a CEL for a EGR? In other words I could have been driving
    around with a bad knock sensor, not see a CEL and then when the EGR valve
    had a problem, it threw a code and I saw both codes, with my Digimoto
    computer analyzer, but it was initially set by the EGR valve?

    So, I need to check the problems as independent problems, not as a
    combination problem?

    If the passages are clogged, the upper manifold MUST be removed to clean? Do
    I have to remove the lower intake manifold?

    What is the MOST common problem? Clogged passages, or a problem with the EGR
    valve itself?

    Knock sensor is expensive, other than the check in the manual is there
    anything else I can do?

    Thanks
    John

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    Steve
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     

    Exactly. The knock sensor isn't an emmisions control device.
     

    Yep.
     

    Yep. It's not -that- hard to do it. You have to clean out the pipe going to
    it as well.
     

    No.
     

    I've never seen a valve bad and cleaned dozens of upper intakes and pipes.

     


    Again clean the connectors on the sensor and install a new plug on the end
    of the harness and see if it resets the code for it. If it does, the sensor
    is dead. BTW this causes the timing to default to the retarded position and
    causes a loss of performance and MPG.
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    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

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    John
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    Re: Steve or NissTech EGR&Knock sensor problems

    The woman driving the car has not complained of power loss. (it's my 18 year
    old daughter) I specifically asked her about this and she said no...
    Thanks
    John
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