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Nissan Maxima: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

  1. #1
    Bitsbucket
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    stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Hi All
    I have a 97 Max, has 138K on the clock, I just bought new rotors and pads,
    am considering rebuilt calipers, and wonder if with this many miles on the
    clock should I replace the rubber brake lines with Stainless Steel. I can
    get a set for all 4 corners of the car off E-bay for 80 bucks.....will this
    help reduce pedal travel as advertised? or is it a waste of money.
    All input appreciated.
    Thanks
    2Maximas!


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    Jon
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Stainless brake lines reduce pedal travel and they do work great. $80
    bucks is reasonable as courtesynissan.com wants about twice that. Just
    remember that all of the banjo bolts and washers have to be replaced to
    be sure of a good seal. Also, use Ford High Performance Brake Fluid
    when you bleed the brakes. Start at the passenger rear side and then do
    the driver's rear and then go to the passenger front and then the
    driver's side front. Never use synthetic fluid in a Nissan with ABS...
    the Ford High Performance Brake Fluid is about $5 a pint from the
    dealer and it has the highest poiling point of any DOT3 fluid on the
    market.

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     


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    Steve
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     

    Why, do the OE ones look bad? They ussually last aprox 20 years.
     

    No. Not enough you could ever -measure-. People claim they "feel better"
    etc, I've never experienced this when I've installed them on someone's car.
    Then again I had no vested interest in them either!

     

    Waste of money IMHO. If they aren't DOT approved lines, they can be
    -dangerous- to use on a street car. We won't sell these "race lines"
    because of the liability. Seen them fail prematurely because they were
    designed to use on a race car with very limited wheel travel and low miles
    per year. I mean really, how many miles a year do most race cars see? And
    most race tracks don't have pot holes etc.

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    Steve

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    Bitsbucket
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Hi Steve,
    I just have what I consider to be pedal travel that is SLIGHTLY excessive,
    and since I am going to do the rotors and pads, just wondered if maybe I
    should do them (brake lines, the ones from the caliper to the main hardline)
    too. I am debating on whether to put calipers on the front too.......with
    that many miles on the clock, I just didn't know what I should do along with
    the rotors and pads, ( I am going to bleed all the old brake fluid out and
    replace it with fresh too, that is why I was thinking calipers, it never
    fails that the bleeders snap off from non use and then I end up replacing
    the cal;ipers anyway) what do you think? I just want to do this one time,
    while I have it apart, I am planning on springs and struts in the near
    future too, should I wait to do the brakes when I do that? In other words I
    just want to tear it down one time, not do it bit by bit...
    Thanks for your help,
    John
    PS drove a 99 Z-28 Chevy yesterday, low miles, in good shape, damn it makes
    me appreciate my Maxima, no my Maxima is not as quick, but the build quality
    is heads and tails better than the chevy. Little things like the turn
    signal stalk, it feels cheap in the chevy.... I'd like to have one of those
    LT1 cars, they are QUICK! but the sacrifice in build quality is just not
    worth it, at least to me.....(Dream car: 99 Maxima, RWD, with an LT1 engine,
    6 speed manual....yes I know, it's impossible, well at least on MY budget!)


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    Codifus
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Bitsbucket wrote: 
    Any car no matter how old can benefit from stainless steel brakelines.
    Make sure they are DOT approved. As for reducing pedal travel, I've had
    a set of SS brakelines on my 98 Max SE, same as your car . . . just
    about. It wasn't so much pedal travel that was reduced, but more of
    pedal firmness and feel that was enhanced. Definitely worth it as I
    could modulate brake pressure with much better precision.

    HTH

    CD

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    Steve
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     

    I seriously doubt you'd be able to tell the difference if you didn't know
    they were there.

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    Bitsbucket
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    That is what I was talking about really, just a better "feel" on the brakes.
    I can get a set for all 4 corners for what the local parts house (read....
    AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts etc.) for what for factory replacements,
    actually LESS than factory replacements, so I was wondering if they were
    worth replacing.....seems you have answered that with your statement. I
    believe while I am going thru the trouble to replace all that stuff, and
    bleed the brakes, it's probably worth getting a higher grade part, over
    factory, especially since they are LESS money!
    Thanks again,
    2Maximas....(John) (I own 2, a 96 SE and a 97 SE CLONE, you know, all the SE
    parts added to a GXE...)


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    Steve
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    Bitsbucket wrote:
     

    So really you were just looking for someone who shared your opinion?

    I'm sure you'll feel the difference -after- you've spent the money for this
    "upgrade". :-/

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    David
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...


    "Steve T" <com> wrote in message news:de... 

    So if they're DOT approved, they're OK then? Or are you saying that
    braided hoses in general fail sooner than the other kind?

    Brake upgrades that make sense to me (in order):
    DOT 5.1 fluid (to reduce boiling-fluid fade).
    Slotted rotors (to reduce pad-smoking, and fade from gas buildup).
    Aftermarket pads (if there is any need).

    If they help, it would be convenient to install the brake hoses when changing the fluid.
    But if they don't help...

    What's your take on brake upgrades?



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    Steve
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    Re: stainless brake lines.....steve or nisstech Help...

    David wrote:
     

    Should be. They will have plastic or metal "guides" that support the braided
    hose where it attaches to the fixed ends.

     

    They seem to fail sooner from what I've seen. Factory hoses last aprox 20
    years from my experience. Do NOT use raybestos hoses. Heard reports of
    failures in a -VERY- short periods of time, some as short as 2-3 weeks.

     

    Same you yours, although I think I'd move better pads above slotting the
    rotors. Many times what people feel as "spongy" brakes (and why they think
    the braided hoses fixed this) is old water saturated fluid. They install
    new/better fluid at the same time as the hoses and think the hoses are what
    did it.

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    http://www.atlantaracing.com


 

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