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  1. #1
    clevere
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    Spark plug question

    Ok, my 94 Grand prix with a 3100 has a mis fire. So I pulled the wires, and
    noticed one cylinder wasn't firing quite right.

    I pulled the plug, and cleaned it up. During the cleaning process, I noticed
    that the element on the plug (where the spark shoots out during firing)
    WIGGLES. I mean, I can actually see it moving inside the ceramic. I checked
    another plug, and it doesn't do this. My question is .. should the electrode
    wiggle in the ceramic?

    To recap, I got a plug that the element (part that shoots spark into the
    cylinder) wiggles. It shouldn't, correct?



  2. #2
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    Re: Spark plug question

    clevere wrote: 

    NO! All parts of the plug should be firmly attached.
    Does it otherwise look ok? No mashing, burning, etc. of the electrodes?
    Sounds like it broke internally. It was probably just a poorly
    manufactured plug (they can't all be perfect) or it somehow
    got damaged.

  3. #3
    Steven
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    Re: Spark plug question

    Replace the plug and check into it's warranty provisions. That plug is
    damaged and it doesn't make sense to continue using it. But now you have to
    figure out WHY it became damaged...even so, just change it.

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  4. #4
    clevere
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    Re: Spark plug question

    Thanks guys, I knew that wasn't right, but I wasn't 100% sure .. (sounds
    wierd huh). Anyway, otherwise the plug looks normal, except for the
    electrode part, instead of being flat, it's a little rounded. Almost like it
    got a little hot. Kind of like the picture at this link:

    www.mztech.fsnet.co.uk/ images/plugs/plug9.gif

    except it's overall condition is a hell of a lot better. The only portion
    that looks similar is the sounded head of the electrode (instead of being
    flat). The length of the electrode looks fine, and the ceramic looks ok, so
    I don't think the piston it it. Maybe the gap was off? I've NEVER in my
    life had a plug wiggle like this...

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  5. #5
    Bon·ne·ville
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    Re: Spark plug question

    Clevere if the center electrodes of your plugs look rounded like that you
    are way overdue for a change. You most likely need new wires as well. Go
    get some new plugs and wires. Stay away from bosch and champions,
    Autolites and ac delco's are good. Check your new wires with an ohm meter
    to make sure they are good (yes new wire sets are known to have bad ones).
    Just to be sure you know that if you have to pull a wire back off only
    pull from the boot. If you pull on the wire you will damage it.



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  6. #6
    clevere
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    Re: Spark plug question

    The plugs and wires are less than 1 year, or 15k miles old. So I'm not sure
    what in the hell is causing that problem. I will check the wire when I
    replace the plug tonight. Thanks for the tip!


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  7. #7
    WHO??
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    Re: Spark plug question

    how many ohms should a good plug wire read???



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  8. #8
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    Re: Spark plug question

    WHO?? wrote: 

    Less than 15k. 5k to 7.5k would be very nice.
    11k is still ok.

  9. #9
    Bon·ne·ville
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    Re: Spark plug question

    In general conventional plug wires have a resistance of 10,000 to 15,000
    ohms per foot of length. For cables less than 25 inches in length,
    resistance generally should not exceed 30,000 ohms. For those over 25
    inches in length, the maximum acceptable reading is 50,000 ohms.
    Specifications vary with car makes so checking with your service manual is
    a good idea. If you run platinum plugs you might want good low resistance
    wires because Platinum plugs in of themselves have a higher resistance
    than a plain copper plugs. Usually none of my new wires I use go above 5k
    ohms and I return them if any read over 25k-30k ohms. Returning wires are
    easier than dishing out money for replacing a damaged coil.
    When installing new plugs its not a bad idea to use a very "thin!"
    coating of high temp anti-seize compound near the top of the plugs
    threads. I say top because people sometimes get a glob of anti-seize on
    the electrodes and then that plug becomes fouled...



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  10. #10
    clevere
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    Re: Spark plug question

    I replaced the plug, life is good and the GM engine is firing on all
    cylinders again. Plug wire checked out at ok also. I have no idea why that
    plug was screwed up, but I'm going to watch that cylinder and part of the
    coil pack for continued problems.

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