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Ford Focus: Shell Optimax etc

  1. #1
    Robin
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    Shell Optimax etc

    Anyone know the benefits of Optimax and other branded Petrol/Gasoline
    upsells. I'm trying to figure out the reality behind their claims of:

    Better mileage
    Better engine life
    etc

    Can anyone offer guidance here?

    Thanks



  2. #2
    Michael
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc

    In alt.autos.ford.focus Robin Smith <com>: 
     
     

    IMHO, complete nonsense in addition to respectable rip-off. The
    Focus ignition/injection system is programmed to use the petrol
    quality outlined in your owners manual by Ford nothing else.

    Sure it would be great, just filling up your car with this magic
    fuel and have your engine run like Michael Schumacher's Ferrari,
    while reducing fuel consumption.

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  3. #3
    Paul
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc


    In message <heiming.de>, Michael Heiming wrote:
     

    This subject has been done to death on the FFOC forums
    <http://www.ffoc.co.uk/forum/> but here is my tuppence worth...
     

    There is definitely a (slight) performance benefit in using Optimax
    over 95 RON fuel, but whether it's worth the extra cash for that alone
    is very debatable.

    The main improvememnt I noticed was that the engine appeared to run
    more smoothly and was slightly more responsive.
     

    My consumption stats for a 2.0 Focus are:

    95 RON: 32.28 mpg over 28173 miles
    97 RON: 29.89 mpg over 7996 miles
    98 RON: 30.65 mpg over 4517 miles

    As you can see, the economy figures for standard unleaded are best.

    I'm sure Optimax could produce similar results, but when you've forked
    out a significant premium for it, you're going to use every last drop
    of extra performance it gives. Unfortunately as far as fuel economy
    is concerned, the greatest performance benefit over standard fuel
    appears to be at 4500rpm upwards and that puts a big hole in your
    pocket where economy is concerned.

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    Paul...

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  4. #4
    Michael
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc

    In alt.autos.ford.focus Paul Gibson <com>:
     
     
     
     
     

    Times the fuel came up, it has been tested by various car
    magazines over here, they put different cars on a
    power-absorption roller and there was IIRC nothing that couldn't
    be explained with measuring tolerance.

    They compared with the fuel quality outlined by the manufacturer.
    Sadly RON/ROZ are not directly comparable, so I don't know which
    quality 95 RON would be over here and if it's in the spec for
    Foci over here.
     

    IMHO, you'd need a reprogrammed ECU or so to take advantages from
    the fuel. It's easy to fool oneself, only a power-absorption
    roller would show if there's a real gain.

    Sure anyone who thinks he could benefit from it should simply
    test it out and see for himself and his car. It doesn't cost you
    a fortune to fill up your car once or twice with it.

    Your fuel consumption is 7.2-7.8 l/100km, never got this out of
    my Focus (2.0l manual), I'm lucky to get below 9.0 l/100km (26
    mpg), with some care. As soon as you drive >160 km/h (>100 mph)
    the Focus starts guzzling fuel, >200 km/h (>125 mph) an you can
    watch the fuel gauge fall.;( On the other hand you aren't really
    annoyed about a partially speed limits on your way, it helps to
    keep the average fuel consumption in acceptable regions.

    Of course, if the highway is empty enough, which is rare enough,
    the weather fine, mostly it's not and no speed limit, you should
    have more luck with that, it's nice letting the Focus run. DON'T
    look at the fuel gauge... ;-)

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  5. #5
    Paul
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc


    In message <heiming.de>, Michael Heiming wrote:
     

    It's the bog standard unleaded in the UK. Your engine would be same
    as mine, so I'd expect the fuel requirements to be similar.
     

    I have Bluefin and an induction kit.
     

    I agree that having laid out a few extra pennies per litre, you really
    *DO* want to notice the difference, so there is the obvious danger
    that you'll perceive something that's not really there.

    I never did try Optimax on a standard ECU, but a good few folk have
    reported the same as I described.
     

    Carcare tells me I've had 150 fuel purchases and I've never had less
    than 25mpg. I do drive my car hard...
     

    ....but never at that speed!

    I'm surprised it actually goes that fast because it really does run
    out of steam at high revs.
     

    The car is reasonably economical at lower speeds, but once the revs
    climb, it's disappointingly thirsty.

    I had a 2.0 Primera that was way more lively than my chipped Focus,
    revved forever and was still waaaay more economical at high speeds.
    Maybe I was spoiled. Anyway, I digress...

    --
    Paul...

    http://www.cestria.com/



  6. #6
    Michael
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc

    In alt.autos.ford.focus Paul Gibson <com>: 
    [..]
     

    Ah, so your ECU is reprogrammed, it's likely your engine can gain
    from higher ROZ fuel.
     
     
     

    Questionable, with "bluefin" like you have mounted it should be
    quite possible and measurable.

    [..]
     

    Sad thing is, speedometer stops short before 220 km/h, revs climb
    up a little bit more. To find out speedo tolerance, tested with
    my GPS one/twice.

    Astonishing the tolerance with original tires 195/60-15 is only
    5%. GPS shows 209 km/h at 5800 rpm, it does some more revs, but
    those times had no GPS with me. Not that bad, thinking about the
    201 km/h Vmax outlined in the registration.

    [..]
     

    Full ack, matches exactly with my observations.

    [..]

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  7. #7
    Robin
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc

    Thx Paul, good data


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  8. #8
    Paul
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc


    In message <1110320738.432788@sj-nntpcache-3>, Robin Smith wrote:
     
    <snip>
     
     

    If you're interested, that data and a whole lot more is generated by
    Carcare. <http://www.carcaresoftware.com/>

    --
    Paul...

    http://www.cestria.com/

    --
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  9. #9
    Paul
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc


    In message <1110320738.432788@sj-nntpcache-3>, Robin Smith wrote:
     
    <snip>
     
     

    If you're interested, that data and a whole lot more is generated by
    Carcare. <http://www.carcaresoftware.com/>

    --
    Paul...

    http://www.cestria.com/


  10. #10
    Robin
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    Re: Shell Optimax etc

    Cheers! Have you tried the sowtware yourself? Is it worthi ti and does it
    support UK operation?

    Rgds

    "Paul Gibson" <com> wrote in message
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