Mercedes-Benz: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
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Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
I've got an '89 260E with 120K miles on it. Car has been generally reliable
except the time when the tranny went - had to be totally rebuilt, and it
took the dealership 2 weeks! Now, it needs the following done:
- Oil leaking into No. 1 and 5 cylinders - valve job, plus mechanic
recommends a complete head re & re.
- Radiator coolant leaking from somewhere (not hose) - probably a water pump
leak
- Fuel injectors leaking gas into engine - mechanic recommends replacing all
6.
- Probably need new catalytic converter - barely passed emissions test the
last time.
- Time for another set of muffler/pipes
My mechanic says that after all the above work, the car should be good for
another 10 years. Any advise on whether the car's worth keeping? Thanks in
advance.
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
Oil is being sucked into the intake via worn valve guide seals which are
a known defect of the 260 engine. New valve guide seals will fix that,
no need to remove the cylinder head.
Coolant leak is just that - water pump, hose or radiator.
Fuel injectors or their "O" ring seals may be needed after 120K miles.
Poor fuel injector atomization increases emissions - fix the injectors
or their "O" ring seals before doing anything with the catalytic
converter.
IMHO $1K to $1.5K should repair these items, excluding the catalytic
converter which is probably not needed. That's about 50% of just the
sales tax on a new E320!
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
Keep it.
These are fairly minor issues. The head needs new valve oil seals (can be
done with the head in situ, not expensive) as most 260E engines suffer from
this eventually. The waterpump/water leak is again relatively cheap to fix,
get the parts from an on-line specialist it may well be cheaper.
However, if there is evidence of water in the oil (or vice versa) then the
cylinder head needs to come off for a new gasket to be fitted. This is more
expensive but the oil seals could be done at the same time.
Fuel injectors? Just replace them and their seals, again not critically
expensive. This may help with emissions.
As you have already spent money on the transmission, I would say keep it.
I'm assuming of course that the body is in good shape, as they can rust. I
wouldn't keep one which had expensive rust in difficult to repair areas.
Unlikely though as the body should have been galvanised.
My own 260E has covered 160,000 miles now, and has been a very good car
indeed but it needed fuel injectors and did use oil, but I never bothered
with the oil seals as it wasn't too bad. I would still be driving it except
I have a 500SE to replace it now!
Al Bolton, G4VSQ
1988 Mercedes 260E 160,000 miles
1990 Mercedes 500SE 129,000 miles
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
My mechanic says that after all the above work, the car should be good for
another 10 years. Any advise on whether the car's worth keeping?
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Just depends on if you want to spend a lot of $$$ on a 14 year old car and
then "drive it for another 10 years". I think most people would sell the
car and move up to a newer model. If the body and interior are in excellent
conditon and you really like the way the car looks and drives it might make
sense.....if not, sell the car and get something else.
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:10:02 GMT, "Rockman59" <net>
wrote:
why would anyone get rid of a good car like this?
he can expect to get well over another 100k miles from the car, the
car doesn't look out of date and as long as it runs well he should
keep it.
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
Thanks to everyone for their thoughts, advice, and contribution. Yah, the
new E320 and even C240/320 look great, but they're sure going to cost a lot
more than fixing the old one I have - so I'm going to get my mechanic to
give it a once over and let me know how much he wants for fixing all the
above problem (and any more he finds). Will keep you posted.
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
why would anyone get rid of a good car like this?
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If everyone thought like that the entire car industry would be out of
business. Millions of people get rid of good cars every year...because they
have to have the latest, greatest, newest, whatever. What I meant was that
in order to spend big bucks on an older car you have to have a real liking
for the vehicle so that you will keep it long enough to get your money back.
I own a 1986 560 SEL with 128K miles on it and I plan to keep the car
forever. It runs great, looks like new, and has never let me down. I
bought it from the original owner 10 years ago for $22K I have updated the
timing chain and related pieces, valve guide seals, radiator, brakes, etc
and that's about it other than normal service items. Where else can you get
this kind of transportation for such a low amount of money?
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
I agree: I bought a 1990 560 SEL in 1997 for 22,000 bucks. At the time it had
67,000 miles and was flawless. Since then I've spent around $ 11000 on
repairs (one was a 3500 dollar collision) and the car is still mint. I have it
detailed including leather and carpet shampoo 1-2X /year, and recently had it
painted. It now has 133000 miles and runs like a top. I doubt if I could buy
anything this powerful or luxurious new for $ 33000 (what I've spent in 6 years
for the car and maintenance).
com
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
Sell me your 560 ;
KH
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Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles
OK - here's what they did at the shop:
Re/Re cylinder head, all new gaskets & seals, new timing chain and guides,
injector cleaning and seals, new water pump (old one was leaking), all new
valve guides, timing belt tensioner, thermostat; plus coolant, oil & filter,
air filter, spark plugs, various hoses, clamps, etc.
Total Damage: $2200. Ouch. The mechanic said it should go another 100K
miles. Sure hope he's right.
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