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Mercedes-Benz: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

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    C
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    Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    I've got an '89 260E with 120K miles on it. Car has been generally reliable
    except the time when the tranny went - had to be totally rebuilt, and it
    took the dealership 2 weeks! Now, it needs the following done:

    - Oil leaking into No. 1 and 5 cylinders - valve job, plus mechanic
    recommends a complete head re & re.
    - Radiator coolant leaking from somewhere (not hose) - probably a water pump
    leak
    - Fuel injectors leaking gas into engine - mechanic recommends replacing all
    6.
    - Probably need new catalytic converter - barely passed emissions test the
    last time.
    - Time for another set of muffler/pipes

    My mechanic says that after all the above work, the car should be good for
    another 10 years. Any advise on whether the car's worth keeping? Thanks in
    advance.



  2. #2
    T.G.
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    Oil is being sucked into the intake via worn valve guide seals which are
    a known defect of the 260 engine. New valve guide seals will fix that,
    no need to remove the cylinder head.

    Coolant leak is just that - water pump, hose or radiator.

    Fuel injectors or their "O" ring seals may be needed after 120K miles.

    Poor fuel injector atomization increases emissions - fix the injectors
    or their "O" ring seals before doing anything with the catalytic
    converter.

    IMHO $1K to $1.5K should repair these items, excluding the catalytic
    converter which is probably not needed. That's about 50% of just the
    sales tax on a new E320!


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    Al
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    Keep it.

    These are fairly minor issues. The head needs new valve oil seals (can be
    done with the head in situ, not expensive) as most 260E engines suffer from
    this eventually. The waterpump/water leak is again relatively cheap to fix,
    get the parts from an on-line specialist it may well be cheaper.

    However, if there is evidence of water in the oil (or vice versa) then the
    cylinder head needs to come off for a new gasket to be fitted. This is more
    expensive but the oil seals could be done at the same time.

    Fuel injectors? Just replace them and their seals, again not critically
    expensive. This may help with emissions.

    As you have already spent money on the transmission, I would say keep it.
    I'm assuming of course that the body is in good shape, as they can rust. I
    wouldn't keep one which had expensive rust in difficult to repair areas.
    Unlikely though as the body should have been galvanised.

    My own 260E has covered 160,000 miles now, and has been a very good car
    indeed but it needed fuel injectors and did use oil, but I never bothered
    with the oil seals as it wasn't too bad. I would still be driving it except
    I have a 500SE to replace it now!

    Al Bolton, G4VSQ
    1988 Mercedes 260E 160,000 miles
    1990 Mercedes 500SE 129,000 miles
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    Rockman59
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    My mechanic says that after all the above work, the car should be good for
    another 10 years. Any advise on whether the car's worth keeping?
    ____________________________________________
    Just depends on if you want to spend a lot of $$$ on a 14 year old car and
    then "drive it for another 10 years". I think most people would sell the
    car and move up to a newer model. If the body and interior are in excellent
    conditon and you really like the way the car looks and drives it might make
    sense.....if not, sell the car and get something else.



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    127.0.0.0
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:10:02 GMT, "Rockman59" <net>
    wrote:
     
    why would anyone get rid of a good car like this?
    he can expect to get well over another 100k miles from the car, the
    car doesn't look out of date and as long as it runs well he should
    keep it.



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  6. #6
    C
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    Thanks to everyone for their thoughts, advice, and contribution. Yah, the
    new E320 and even C240/320 look great, but they're sure going to cost a lot
    more than fixing the old one I have - so I'm going to get my mechanic to
    give it a once over and let me know how much he wants for fixing all the
    above problem (and any more he finds). Will keep you posted.




  7. #7
    Rockman59
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    why would anyone get rid of a good car like this?
    __________________________________________
    If everyone thought like that the entire car industry would be out of
    business. Millions of people get rid of good cars every year...because they
    have to have the latest, greatest, newest, whatever. What I meant was that
    in order to spend big bucks on an older car you have to have a real liking
    for the vehicle so that you will keep it long enough to get your money back.
    I own a 1986 560 SEL with 128K miles on it and I plan to keep the car
    forever. It runs great, looks like new, and has never let me down. I
    bought it from the original owner 10 years ago for $22K I have updated the
    timing chain and related pieces, valve guide seals, radiator, brakes, etc
    and that's about it other than normal service items. Where else can you get
    this kind of transportation for such a low amount of money?



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    JAZZIMA
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    I agree: I bought a 1990 560 SEL in 1997 for 22,000 bucks. At the time it had
    67,000 miles and was flawless. Since then I've spent around $ 11000 on
    repairs (one was a 3500 dollar collision) and the car is still mint. I have it
    detailed including leather and carpet shampoo 1-2X /year, and recently had it
    painted. It now has 133000 miles and runs like a top. I doubt if I could buy
    anything this powerful or luxurious new for $ 33000 (what I've spent in 6 years
    for the car and maintenance).
    com

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    Kevin
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    Sell me your 560 ;
    KH

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  10. #10
    C
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    Re: Sell or Keep? '89 260E with 120K miles

    OK - here's what they did at the shop:

    Re/Re cylinder head, all new gaskets & seals, new timing chain and guides,
    injector cleaning and seals, new water pump (old one was leaking), all new
    valve guides, timing belt tensioner, thermostat; plus coolant, oil & filter,
    air filter, spark plugs, various hoses, clamps, etc.

    Total Damage: $2200. Ouch. The mechanic said it should go another 100K
    miles. Sure hope he's right.


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