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    F2004:
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    Scuderia You...

    Scuderia You: Want to own an F1 Ferrari? All it takes is money
    PETE LYONS
    Published Date: 9/27/04
    http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=100877

    You’ll have to wait until 2006 to take delivery, and the drivers
    themselves get first dibs, but Michael Schumacher and Rubens
    Barrichello’s current stable of Formula One Ferraris is about to go up
    for sale. Grab yours, and the factory will happily throw in driving
    lessons. You even get free Bridgestone groovies for it. That’s right,
    free.

    Is anyone still in the room? Okay, here’s the deal. Traditionally,
    Enzo Ferrari didn’t like outsiders driving his old Grand Prix cars.
    Company policy was to sell them for display only. But that policy was
    relax*ed after the Old Man’s passing in 1988, and in 2001 the factory
    set up a unit called Corse Clienti (“Racing Owners”) specifically to
    help private enthusiasts fully enjoy these most exotic of automobiles.

    Four such F1s were describ*ed in a sales packet handed out to
    potential Clienti at the recent Monterey Historic event. Newest on the
    list was the F2003-GA in which Barrichello won last year’s British GP.
    Price was €1.5 million (about $1.82 million), not including tax. That
    car was still under a two-year “technological moratorium” designed to
    keep Ferrari secrets away from Minardi and Jordan, but it can be
    released next Jan. 1.

    The other three were 2002 models, which could be taken home right
    away. Prices were €1.4 million apiece ($1.7 million) for two that had
    each won a single Grand Prix, and €1.5 million for a two-time winner.
    Note an extra victory is worth another $120,000 on the résumé.

    The red missile comes with a complete set of the ancillary equipment
    needed to make it work—tire warmers, coolant and oil pre-heaters,
    pneumatic-valve air compressor, hydraulics unit, even a set of jacks.

    Not bad. Look at it this way: Rather than clutter your garage with
    three or four plain old Enzos, you could just as easily get into
    something really special.

    And standing by, helping hand extended, is Andrea Galetti. A former
    race engineer who worked with Mansell, Alesi, Berger and both
    Schumacher and Barrichello during his 10 years in pit lane, Galetti
    now runs Corse Clienti in a facility literally across the
    Via Abetone Inferiore from the modern racing department. His 12-man
    staff refurbishes retired cars and prepares them for sale, then caters
    to any of the new owners’ needs, be it maintenance, overhaul or
    repair, ongoing training, or just storage (Schumacher and Barrichello
    keep theirs here). There’s even an arrive-and-drive program for
    Ferrari track-day events. We hear they throw some grand dinner
    parties.

    As Galetti puts it, “We are fully dedicated to customer service;
    whatever is the necessity of our customer, so we are there.” Sounds
    like he was well trained by his pampered F1 drivers.

    To cover administrative costs, Ferrari Racing Owners are charged
    annual dues of €1,000, about $1,200. This entitles buyers to have
    their cars custom-fitted, and to drive shakedown laps at the factory’s
    Fiorano test track. Owners can send their mechanics through service
    training, too—the rumor is not true that a factory tech must be
    on-scene whenever the car runs. Once they learn how, Galetti says,
    anyone can operate an F1 Ferrari. “It’s not a space shuttle, it’s a
    car.”

    To prepare a car for civilian life, Corse Clienti installs suspension
    setups and gearing that should suit most tracks it is likely to visit,
    and “we choose aerodynamic downforce that is on the safe side.” Also,
    the 3.0-liter V10 is detuned by lowering the rpm limit, purely to make
    it last longer.

    “As you probably know, this engine doesn’t have a very long life,
    about 600 kilometers [372 miles],” Galetti admits. “So we always
    suggest to be quiet on revs, because maybe the life is going to be
    bigger.” He reckons that short-shifting by 1000 rpm can at least
    double the distance-before-overhaul, something a private owner is more
    likely to notice than the relatively modest decrease in power. “And
    everything is adjustable by master switch on the steering wheel.
    Whenever the owner wants to do a proper lap, he can just turn the
    switch and he has the car in a racing condition.”

    Of course, before you turn that switch think about what happened to F1
    client (and Dutch Ferrari dealer) Frederico Kroymans at Laguna Seca.
    For some reason, his 1999 model speared into the Turn Six wall,
    burying the nose in a tire barrier as the car rotated. The entire
    front end of the monocoque snapped off, leaving his feet sticking out.
    He escaped with only a sore knee, but...

    “I was really surprised,” Galetti commented. “We normally have no
    chassis damage. Just a wing, maybe a suspension. This chassis is going
    to be analyzed by our engineers in the structural department and all
    the laboratories. They can get information from it.” He added that an
    effort would be made to repair the tub.

    Fortuitously, Kroymans and his fellow Ferrari F1 owners benefit from a
    ready supply of factory-made spare parts—where else are you going to
    get those? Other Corse Clienti selling points include official
    documentation of your car’s history and provenance, complete with
    computer downloads of every lap it ever turned.
    Really, don’t you think a factory-certified, pre-owned F1 Ferrari is
    one red-hot, screaming deal? Won’t you kick yourself if you don’t move
    on this? Come on, man, you deserve it! The heck with “Be like Mike.”
    Be like Enzo.


  2. #2
    matt
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    Re: Scuderia You...


    "F2004: 15 of 17*" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 


    If I had the means, I would do it in a heartbeat. My only
    surprise is the price is that low...



    -Matt- "..."



  3. #3
    Bert
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    Re: Scuderia You...


    "matt borland" <rr.com> schreef in bericht
    news:brYbd.313065$columbus.rr.com... 
    I was thinking the same, what other manufactorer sells his cars for a
    fraction of the costprice?



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    TigerRace1
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    Re: Scuderia You...

    <<the rumor is not true that a factory tech must be on-scene whenever the car
    runs. Once they learn how, Galetti says, anyone can operate an F1 Ferrari.
    “It’s not a space shuttle, it’s a car.”>>

    You can't replace the clutch in a 360 F1 without special, factory equipment
    that the Factory won't let anyone but dealers get their hands on. Are they
    handing out the diagnostic equipment to F1 race car owners?

    C.

  5. #5
    F2004:
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    Re: Scuderia You...

    On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:31:40 +0200, "Bert Kanters"
    <com> wrote: 

    Year-old F1 cars are all but worthless to a race team, two year-old
    cars are genuinely worthless.



  6. #6
    Tifosi308
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    Re: Scuderia You...

    My friend Julie wrote...
     

    Paul Stoddart might not want to hear that. "Vintage" PS01-European V10s might
    just represent Minardi on the grid in 2005. How much is a four year old
    Minardi worth I wonder....

    T308
    (Who wants to buy something from the Minardi auction next month...)




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    MC
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    Re: Scuderia You...

    Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek wrote:
     

    Funny - today a friend and I were watching racing all day, and we were
    checking out the very excellent, very thrilling Moto GP race in
    Australia. We started wondering who the "Zolt Baumgartner" of Moto GP
    might be - we figured Ruben Xaus this year, but the point was more to
    guess who the backmarkers are in the major motorsports series, in honor
    of and by comparison to a guy who probably just gets the DEAD LAST OR
    CLOSE TO DEAD LAST placing result recorded 18 times in advance before
    the season even starts, just to save a little statistician time and
    resources. My guess for NeckCar would probably be Kyle Petty ...

    MC


    --
    You raise the blade, you make the change
    You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
    You lock the door
    And throw away the key
    There's someone in my head but it's not me

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    TigerRace1
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    Re: Scuderia You...

    <<We started wondering who the "Zolt Baumgartner" of Moto GP might be - we
    figured Ruben Xaus this year, but the point was more to guess who the
    backmarkers are in the major motorsports series, in honor of and by comparison
    to a guy who probably just gets the DEAD LAST OR CLOSE TO DEAD LAST placing
    result recorded 18 times in advance before the season even starts, just to save
    a little statistician time and resources. >>

    <a-hem> I resemble that remark. However, I beat Derek Bell in the last race and
    did NOT come in anywhere close to last this time.

    C.

  9. #9
    MC
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    Re: Scuderia You...

    TigerRace1 wrote:
     

    You didn't figure in that remark. We didn't start having the discussion
    until after your race and the MotoGP race were over, and we immediately
    went from Zolt's plight to Kyle Petty - strictly well paid, major-series
    professional drivers who can't ever seem to get it done.

    MC

    --
    You raise the blade, you make the change
    You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
    You lock the door
    And throw away the key
    There's someone in my head but it's not me

  10. #10
    F2004:
    Guest

    Re: Scuderia You...

    On 18 Oct 2004 02:34:09 GMT, comunista (Tifosi308 the
    Serial Number Geek) wrote: 

    ....
     

    Iirc, he has a two-year old chassis homologated with a latter European
    engine.

    I don't believe the PS01 is homologatable (?!) to this year's (next
    year's) rules.
     

    I think a '92 Minardi-Lamborghini V-12 is available 3rd party for
    ~$150k.


 

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