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Toyota: Saab Complaint

  1. #1
    milt
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    Saab Complaint


    Less than 11,000 miles on a 2000 9-3 coupe.

    SECOND catastrophic freeway blowout in six months. Both quick
    and dangerous.

    NEW Michelin tires have/had 11,000 miles on them. The first
    blowout occurred at only 5500 miles. The Dealer has refused to
    deal with the issue.

    OnStar failed to work.

    I had to literally risk my life changing my tire on the freeway.

    I lost an important client because of this.

    Everything on this car costs double what Hondas and Toyotas cost.
    I see no added value, but lots of added risk and hassle. Tires
    are one of the simpler quality items for an Auto Maker to get
    right. If Saab puts bubblegum tires on their cars without
    noticing; I can hardly wait to see what they didn't 'notice'
    next.

    ***

    All this is not just expensive or unacceptable. It is criminal.

    No car, no matter how intelligently designed and built, is worth
    this. I paid extra for a Saab, precisely so I would not face
    problems like this.

    Today I would trade this Saab straight across for a comparable
    Honda Civic that would have gotten me to my appointment on time.

    So would you.


    milton brewster


  2. #2
    Dave
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    Re: Saab Complaint

    On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:42:09 GMT, milt brewster <net> wrote: 

    What is your intention here, to start a cross-brand flamewar?
     

    Thought you said they were Michelin. Didn't know Saab made tires.
     

    What was the cause of the blowout? Did you have your pressures
    set properly? Does your car have an alignment problem? Are you
    trying to solve the problem, or just complain about it?
     

    What is the cause of this atypical problem with your particular
    car?
     

    OK.
     

    I would? Why would I want to get to your appointment; I'm thinking we
    wouldn't enjoy each other's company very much.

    Dave Hinz


  3. #3
    Grunff
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    Re: Saab Complaint

    milt brewster wrote: 

    How are blowouts Saab's fault???

    Bad luck I think.

     

    Poor baby!

     

    How long did it take you to change a wheel?

     

    Sell it quick.

     

    Which *never* suffer blowouts.

    --
    Grunff


  4. #4
    Johannes
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    Re: Saab Complaint



    milt brewster wrote: 

    But what has all this to do with Saab? Michelin is a top brand tire.
    A blow out is a rare but possible risk, possibly caused by prior
    damage to the tire. Onstar is a communication system that has little
    to do with the car and is only fitted in some markets.

  5. #5
    klaus
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    Re: Saab Complaint

    In alt.autos.saab milt brewster <net> wrote: 

    A comparable Honda Civic? Tell ya what. Pick it out and I'll deliver
    it and we'll trade. Where are you located?

    -klaus


  6. #6
    Pete
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    Re: Saab Complaint


    "milt brewster" <net> wrote in message
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    ROTFL!!!

    As we all know, Michelin is good at making overpriced and mediocre (at best)
    tires, but even these should not be blowing out for no reason. My picks
    would be:

    a. improper inflation
    b. prior damage to the tire (cut or hit sideways causing damage to steel
    belts inside)
    c. hitting a pothole with a low-profile tire/large rim.

    Finally, 11,000 miles is not "NEW". But, IIRC, even OEM tires have
    warranty, so talk to the almighty Michelin to give you new tires and cover
    possible damages to the car IF in fact the reason was none of the above.

    People like you do not deserve to drive fine cars like this. Get your Civic
    already and go cry somewhere else.

    Cheers,

    Pete




  7. #7
    dizzy
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    Re: Saab Complaint

    On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:42:09 GMT, milt brewster <net>
    wrote:
     

    Then you are a fool. What makes you think that expensive cars are
    more reliable than regular cars? They're not.


  8. #8
    pablo
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    Re: Saab Complaint


    Why would Onstar go off automatically after a tire fault? I thought the
    directions state specifically and quite clearly it only calls in when
    airbags deploy? Or is it implied when pushing the Onstar button nothing
    happened? That just seems to be a weird concatenation of what, to my best
    knowledge, are very rare events. I usually reserve the term "terrible bad
    luck" for injury accidents, thus I think this has to befiled under the "huge
    annoyance" qualifier.

    ....pablo



  9. #9
    Hitman
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    Re: Saab Complaint

    On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:42:09 GMT, milt brewster <net>
    wrote:
     

    I had a blowout on my pirelli on my 2002 9-3 hatch about a month after
    I got it. I had it replaced. A few months ago (about 9 months later)
    the replacement Pirelli developed a bump and a split.

    All other 3 tires work fine. I think it may be aligned poorly,
    putting too much pressure on that tire.

    I'll have them take a look.

    Stay safe.

  10. #10
    Elmo
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    Re: Saab Complaint

    In article <supernews.com>,
    "pablo" <pabloNOSPAMsimplyhombreDOTnet> wrote:
     

    I'm not sure he was saying that. I understood him to be saying simply
    that OnStar didn't work--which means he couldn't get help, nothing more.

    I don't think he said anything about he thought it was supposed to
    automatically phone home with a blowout.



 
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