Ferrari: ROLL CALL!
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ROLL CALL!
Are we a clique? are we a 'faux aristocracy'? Are we dead?
In 2001 I posted a roll call and these were the results:
Responses 49 (to 16:15 GMT, 20/11/01)
Lurkers/'rare contributors' 27 (55% read but do not post).
Ferraristi (owners) 24 (so, 48.9% of a.a.f posters are owners?)
Location:
USA 36 (73%)
UK 6 (12%)
Canada 3 (6%)
France 1 (2%)
Finland 1 (2%)
Australia 1 (2%)
Netherlands 1 (2%)
South Africa 1 (2%)
SO! PLEASE RESPOND:
Are you:
A lurker or rare contributor?
Do you own a ferrari?
Where (roughly) are you?
and if you're feeling inclined:
What are your likes/dislikes about this group?
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Paul Duffin wrote:
I am a contributor.
I do not own a Ferrari.
I live in Prescott Valley, AZ (USA).
I actually like the fact that we go off topic frequently.
I like the fact that all of us love cars, period. It doesn't
necessarily have to be all Ferrari (hey - this is our fucking group and
we can do what we want!) Oops.
I dislike the fact that we have had hardly any newcomers "stick" as
active posters (I still think about the Asian guy who lived in a
cornfield in Iowa, can't remember his name but it began with a T.)
I really like blasting Mikal to a cinder when he resurfaces as somebody
else.
I most like the fact that several of us have met and gotten to know each
other, and especially that I've made a best friend out of somebody in
this group. (And a lot of great friends, too, but well ... y'know ...
he lent me money ...)
:-)
(20 mins. later)
I do NOT like the fact that, because I do not have my damn contact
lenses in, I can't see the goddamned keyboard; it's taken fifteen
minutes to clean up the typos.
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"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
Pete Clemenza
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Lurker, though have posted once or twice in the past when I was near to
purchasing a Mondial T or a 328 GTS. And I got excellent advice, though
still havent bought the car.
Located in the USA.
Do not own a Ferrari, do own two Jaguars, love cars in general, and european
cars in particular.
I cruise in once every other week to see if anything interesting comes up
but usually only read posts relating to 308s, 328s, Mondials or 355s, as I
have no interest in F1 or auto racing in general. ( weird for a car guy, but
sorry, following racing just doesnt interest me).
Long term I would like, when garage space permits, or I get bored with my
Jags, an 88 or 89 328 GTS in Azzuro or a Mondial of similar vintage in Red.
412 appeals also, as a two door complment to my V12 Jag sedan.
Daniel
Los Angeles, CA
"Paul Duffin" <com> wrote in message
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Contribute once in a while when a valid car topic is posted. Usually
check the group when online doing something else. Oftentimes in an
airport between flights killing time.
Own a Ferrari. (have owned several over the years 328, 512)
As far as the group, it's poorly moderated so I therefore keep in touch
with my online associates via email.
A great example is the tire fiasco. I don't and cannot care less if
you think "tire" is spelled "tyre".
America is the superpower. We spell it "tire", so it's "tire" Until
the US decides to spell "tire" as "tyre", it's "tire". Or until we are
no longer the global superpower...
Reside in Texas and Arizona.
F1 is ok, but the current rules package is absurd.
It would be nice if more Ferrari owners posted here and less F1
zombies. There is an F1 group, F1 related posts should be there.
I do find that most American Ferrari owners keep in touch through the
local Ferrari club. That way you are guaranteed to be among peers both
automotive and financially.
My attorney and accountant both stress the need to keep a lot of
personal data off the net to limit exposure.
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<com> wrote...
Well, thanks for replying the roll call, I appreciate it.
Its not moderated at all (thankfully), or rather it's about as moderated as
conversation in a bar. Generally, I like it that way.
Nice. You need to sort out those other countries too, some of them
don't even try to use English english, let alone the global superpower
version.
Would you care to indulge me for a moment and explain the value of being
amongst peers "both automotive and financially." ?
Yeah, mine too. The last thing anyone needs is to see me exposed.
Pip-pip!
MCPD
(tyres!)
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"Paul Duffin" <com> wrote in message
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Contributor.
No Ferrari for awhile. No Guzzi for awhile. No Duc for
awhile... Someday though... Still working on it all. Closer
to the goal, but not there yet. Like sentence fragments much.
Midwest, USA.
As for likes/dislikes, it is what it is. There will always be
disagreements, insensitive comments, misunderstandings,
and things best left unsaid. Still, the group doesn't exist as
an end-all be-all source of all things Ferrari. The off-topic
stuff keeps me just as entertained as the Ferrari content.
As Paul said, it's basically a bar conversation online among
people with an interest in Ferraris. It meanders a bit, (okay
a LOT), but that's what conversations do.
With the occasional intoxicated posts that pop up it's even
more like a bar conversation, minus the smoke...
The periods of inactivity in the group seem to stem from the
small number of people that post regularly. I've seen other
groups that are constantly in need of refreshing due to the
number of new posts, and while I don't expect that out of
this group I see why some people might not give A.A.F. a chance.
My response to those that complain about this group is that
it's like any other conversation, sometimes you're talking to
people you like and it's good, sometimes you're talking to a
jackass and you want to just walk away. Do what you want,
we're not here to entertain anybody, it just happens sometimes.
....and sometimes we're boring as piss. If that happens go outside
and get some fresh air, catch up with us in a week or two.
-Matt- "..."
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com wrote:
I can't say this was one of your finest posts. I don't recall the
tire/tyre argument in this group - not that that means it didn't happen!
This is not a moderated group - at all - it never has been, so I'm not
sure what you would expect. Surely those in the group with whom you
associate by email have told you there is no moderator.
Fact is, you should be in here because you own Ferraris. It would be
nice if you posted more often. Though it's not easy to ignore those
calling you out or those who feel they are better than you or know more
than you, it can be done. We all have to do that.
Please consider. Just my .02 (and I'm even sure if it's worth that).
M
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"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
Pete Clemenza
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com wrote:
<<As far as the group, it's poorly moderated so I therefore keep in
touch with my online associates via email.>>
Actually, considering the fact that this group isn't moderated at all,
it's really a pretty civil place. Even with what's his name gnawing on
the scenerey occasionally.
<<A great example is the tire fiasco. I don't and cannot care less if
you think "tire" is spelled "tyre".>>
Apparently you do.
<<America is the superpower. We spell it "tire", so it's "tire" Until
the US decides to spell "tire" as "tyre", it's "tire". Or until we are
no longer the global superpower...>>
Well. That's rather pompous and arrogant. As though you should
personally get some credit for bombing the crap out of the rest of the
world. Which wouldn't be something I'd brag about anyway, even if it
were true.
<<Reside in Texas and Arizona.>>
Hot and hotter. How do your Ferraris like that?
<<F1 is ok, but the current rules package is absurd.>>
Indeed!
<<It would be nice if more Ferrari owners posted here>>
Sing it, mister!
<<and less F1 zombies.>>
Hold on there. Who exactly do you see shuffling blindly along with F1
as it currently stands?
<< There is an F1 group, F1 related posts should be there.>>
Piffle. My Ferrari friends are here. I don't wanna go anywhere else.
<<I do find that most American Ferrari owners keep in touch through the
local Ferrari club.>>
How do you calculate what *most* of us do? The only Ferrari owners'
event that I would willingly seek out is a Historic Challenge race and
that's for the cars, not the people. And I would certainly avoid the
*local* club. Good gods, man, I live entirely too close to Beverly
Hills to chance that!
<< That way you are guaranteed to be among peers both automotive and
financially.>>
Uh-huh. See, that's about all I have remotely in common with a great
many of those people. You encounter the same problem when getting
together a large group of Ferrari owners as you do when getting
together a group of Porch or Corvette owners.
<<My attorney and accountant both stress the need to keep a lot of
personal data off the net to limit exposure.>>
Tell me that they didn't actually charge you for that information.
C.
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Paul Duffin wrote:
<<Are we a clique? are we a 'faux aristocracy'?>>
We're friends and apparently that just bunches some people's panties.
<<A lurker or rare contributor?>>
Hey! My boss will tell you that I spend entirely too much time
contributing here.
<<Do you own a ferrari?>>
Lucky me, yes, I do! '85 Mondial QV Cab. And I've had the honour of
racing a '98 355 F1 Challenge car.
<<Where (roughly) are you?>>
So Cal on the Left Coast of the USA.
<<What are your likes/dislikes about this group?>>
I love you guys. Even when you're wrong about something. <eg>
C.
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Yes, both
308, but not as we know it (anymore): www.ferrari308.tk
Netherlands
Endless offtopic debates I only read the first 2-3 posts to see were it is
going.
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