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Nissan Altima: radiator fans not working

  1. #1
    sunny
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    radiator fans not working

    Hi all,
    I have a 92 maxima GXE. I noticed my AC not blowing cold air. I took a
    look and found that neither radiator fans are working. I believe one
    cools the radiator and the other is for the ac. I cant imagine both
    fans can go bad at the same time.

    I tried the following steps suggested in the Chilton's manual.
    - shorted the fan relay and measured the volatage to the fan harness.
    It didnt show any voltage coming there.
    - checked the fusible links. They looked ok.
    - I also checked the ECU code and it flashed 55 (no problem)

    I have not done a thorough checkup. But I was wondering if there are
    there other ideas/causes for the fans to stop working. Is my ac really
    dead or is it because the fan is not working. I dont want to take it
    to a mechanic if I can at least diagnose the problem.

    Thanks for any tips.

    Sunny

  2. #2
    Don't
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    It sounds like you either need a quick course in basic
    electricity/electronics or a friend who has some background in
    electricity.

    It should be a simple circuit tracing exercise if you have a circuit
    diagram.

    Without a wiring diagram, it's more difficult and some of us have a hard
    time tracing out what is going on without that crutch.

    Lacking that you'll have to bite the bullet and have a shop work on it.
    Your own time is probably worth something isn't it??? How much time do
    you want to spend trying to figure it out when you might be doing
    something else that is productive and which you have the experience and
    background to do?



    sunny wrote:
     


  3. #3
    ppointer@nospamindspring.com
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    sunny wrote: 
    I didn't want to make any assumptions here. Are you sure the motor is
    warm enough for the fan to run? I believe for that year, the fan only
    runs when the motor needs additional cooling. Of course, if you need
    air conditioning, then it's probably warm enough for the fan(s) to run.
    What does the temp gauge say?

  4. #4
    James
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:13:00 -0700, sunny wrote:
     

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    Does the A/C blow cold air at steady speeds above 35 mph? If so, then
    your fans have a problem. If not, your A/C system is probably low on
    refrigerant, and neither the compressor nor the fans will run.

  5. #5
    sunny
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    com wrote in message news:<6AAjc.28699$columbus.rr.com>... 

    According to Chilton's they say both fans must rotate at a low speed
    when the ac is switched on. This isnt happening

  6. #6
    sunny
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    "James M. Blaschak" <localdomain> wrote in message news:<localdomain>... 


    The AC is not blowing any cold air at any speed. I guess I will check
    the fans after the car is warm.

  7. #7
    E.
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    On 4/28/04 2:28 PM, in article
    google.com, "sunny"
    <com> wrote:
     


    It is unlikely that both fans are bad. If they don't come on when you
    switch on the AC, then the problem is in the switching. Either they are not
    getting power, or the switch is bad. First thing to check is fuses and
    breakers, then connections and grounds.

    I think it will be easier to solve the problem of the fans not coming on
    with the AC before looking into whether they work when the engine is warm.
    Switching on the AC should make the fans come on regardless of engine temp.


  8. #8
    sunny
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    "E. Meyer" <org> wrote in message news:<BCB67CAD.6D0CA%org>... 

    Thanks. I think it is likely a connection problem. I guess I will
    trace it. I am only hoping that the ac not blowing cold air is a
    symptom of the fans not coming on and not a problem with the ac
    itself. Thank to all who responded.

  9. #9
    sunny
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    com (sunny) wrote in message news:<google.com>... 

    The compressor doesnt seem to be engaging. I see no voltage being
    delivered to the fans. I followed the diagnostic procedure in Chiltons
    manual -

    1. Start engine, turn on ac. Both fans must rotate at low speed -
    FAILED, go to next step
    2. Stop engine, disconnect fan relay-1 and jumper relay terminals 3
    and 5. Disconnect both fan motor harness connectors, Turn ignition
    switch on. Check voltage between terminal a and ground. Must get
    Battery voltage - FAILED, go to next step
    3. Check "GY" fusible link - I assume this is the fusible link
    attached to the positive battery. Tested ok
    Check "R" fusible link - I assume this is the 45 amps (red) fusible
    link in the fusible link box. Tested ok
    Check Joint Connector (J/C) E51 - I dont know how to locate this or
    what it looks like. Anyone know ?
    If step 3 were ok, then it says to repair the harness or connectors. I
    dont know which connectors they mean.

    I also checked the fuses in the car (dash compartment) are ok.

    From the wiring diagram, it looked like the Battery voltage is
    directly fed to the fan harness via the above fusible links, J/C,
    relay. Is the ECU involved in any way to get voltage to the fan. I am
    assuming the ECU is only involved in the control aspect. The voltage
    part is just a feed from the battery. If so, could it just be a wire
    continuity problem ? Kinda unlikely for wires to both fans to go bad.

  10. #10
    E.
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    Re: radiator fans not working

    On 5/6/04 12:17 PM, in article
    google.com, "sunny" <com>
    wrote:
     

    You say the compressor is not coming on? Trace that first, all the way back
    to the AC switch on the dash. The fans don't go on unless the compressor
    engages.

    Most compressors have a low charge cut out that keeps them off if there is
    nothing in there.





 

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