Toyota Trucks: R-22 idle problem
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R-22 idle problem
Hello all. I just found this group and hope someone can help. It's an '87 R-22
2bbl.
Sat for 2 1/2 years while I was out of work due to illness. It starts fine,
idles fine for 5-10 minutes, then idles rough, then dies. The hotter it gets,
the worse. I started w/the basics--plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter,air
filter, carb cleaner. I am by no means a gearhead, so that's about the limit of
my abilities at the moment. I googled the subject on this group, and heard a
lot about vacuum hoses and such, but didn't get a feel for a definitive
solution. Just today someone mentioned to me that it might be an elecric(or
electronic?) idle solenoid on the carb. That ring any bells?
Like I said, I'm no gearhead, and I've been out of work for way too long, so
paying a garage isn't a viable option at the moment. If miracles happen,
hopefully someone here can offer a simple solution. Or, if there's a mechanic
in Central CT who will
help me out in exchange for some housepainting, that could work, too.
Thanks in advance,
Drew.
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Re: R-22 idle problem
Tyedboyne wrote:
Glad to hear you're better! Could it be old gas, or water in the gas?
Tom - Vista, CA
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Re: R-22 idle problem
>Glad to hear you're better!
Thanks!.
I dunno. But it had half a tank while it sat,
and the first thing I did when I revived it was to add some drygas, and then
put in a half tank of premium. I've run it down a quarter tank since then, and,
like I said, I've read of other folk here w/similar troubles, and none
of them mentioned letting the truck sit, or old gas. But if the problem goes
away when I'm all the way into an entire tank of fresh, that would be a simple
and easy solution.
A little too easy for my luck, prob'ly....
Any other Ideas?
Thanks again,
Drew.
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For starters I'd check the float level. In the site glass on the front of
carb it should be somewhere around the middle. If is below the glass, the
float level is too low or the needle valve is stuck. Next, remove the air
cleaner and use at least a full can of carb cleaner on the linkage,
butterfly valves, and springs both inside and outside of carb. Try and get
any carbon/sludge off. While ur doing this move the throtle by hand through
its whole range. Let this dry, then hold open the butterfly valve and pull
the throttle to full and release. You should see fuel squirt into the
chamber. Put the air filter back on and fire the engine this may free up
any thing that stuck during the storage time.
My '85 FSM states possible cause of rough idle or stall as:
Idle speed incorrect, slow jet clogged, idle mixture incorrect, fuel cut
solenoid valve not open( you can across this one), choke faulty, or
secondary throttle valve not closed. If above cleaning doesn't solve
problem, I would turn up the idle. The adjustment screw is located on the
rear of the carb. Its spring loaded and on the carb body not the linkage,
these are high ilde adjustment which seems to be working properly. Stay
simple before you start replacing stuff.
Hope this helps
Nathan
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Nathan wrote:
chamber. Put the air filter back on and fire the engine this may free up
Ok, so to clarify---I should do all of the above with the engine cold? Let it
dry before starting?
My '85 FSM states possible cause of rough idle or stall as:
My Haynes book also mentioned the EGR valve as a possible culprit. I was
planning to make cleaning the EGR filter my next step--if it ever stops
frikkin' raining here.
A-effing-Men!!!
Me too. Many thanks for the advice,
Drew.
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Re: R-22 idle problem
Yea clean the carb cool, no need to be working over a hot engine. The
cleaner will evaporate rather quickly, just make sure there are no puddles
before you start the engine. It may be a bit rough at first while the
cleaner inside the carb burns off.
The EGR is a possibility you can clean the filter, check to function of the
valve. Its a bladder type if you remove the vac line you should be able to
hear/feel it move by blowing/sucking on the vac line.I think your Haynes
manual also has a picture of the EGR tube. It is mounted on the intake
manifold and the cylinder head. The gasket on the intake is replaceable at
any parts store, the back gasket on the head is part of the manifold gasket
so try your damnest not to tear it. This tube is often full of carbon use a
bottle brush and carb cleaner to remove all the build up
HTH
Cheers
Nathan
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I had a similar problem. It turned out to be a stuck butterfly.
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>I had a similar problem. It turned out to be a stuck butterfly.
Nice pics. But if this means I need to dismount and disassemble my carb, I'm
SOL. That kinda work is just a leeetle bit beyond my talents.
Drew.
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Re: R-22 idle problem
Hi all,
I'm new to this group but I am a bit of a backyard mechanic. I recently bought an
86 runner with the 4y. Had the same problem and it turned out to be the main body
of the carby was loose. If you can move the top half of the carby and the bottom
doesnt move then its most likely the cause. I found the gaskets between the main
body and the butterfly assembly were allowing air into the system. The hotter it
got the worse it got. I rebuilt the carby and havent had the problem since.
Dont know if this will help but all suggestions are always good.
rgds,
Kevin
Tyedboyne wrote:
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Re: R-22 idle problem
These are all great ideas. However, if you started with old gas, you may
have a clogged fuel filter. On my truck (84), this item is located in front
of the fuel tank and easiest to get to through the right rear wheel well. be
prepared to clip off the fuel lines or you'll have gas everywhere. Also,
remeber which hose goes to which hole. When my truck runs like this, 9
times out of 10 it is a clogged fuel filter.
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