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  1. #1
    Tyedboyne
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    R-22 idle problem

    Hello all. I just found this group and hope someone can help. It's an '87 R-22
    2bbl.
    Sat for 2 1/2 years while I was out of work due to illness. It starts fine,
    idles fine for 5-10 minutes, then idles rough, then dies. The hotter it gets,
    the worse. I started w/the basics--plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter,air
    filter, carb cleaner. I am by no means a gearhead, so that's about the limit of
    my abilities at the moment. I googled the subject on this group, and heard a
    lot about vacuum hoses and such, but didn't get a feel for a definitive
    solution. Just today someone mentioned to me that it might be an elecric(or
    electronic?) idle solenoid on the carb. That ring any bells?

    Like I said, I'm no gearhead, and I've been out of work for way too long, so
    paying a garage isn't a viable option at the moment. If miracles happen,
    hopefully someone here can offer a simple solution. Or, if there's a mechanic
    in Central CT who will
    help me out in exchange for some housepainting, that could work, too.

    Thanks in advance,

    Drew.

  2. #2
    TOM
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    Tyedboyne wrote: 

    Glad to hear you're better! Could it be old gas, or water in the gas?

    Tom - Vista, CA

  3. #3
    Tyedboyne
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    >Glad to hear you're better!

    Thanks!.
     

    I dunno. But it had half a tank while it sat,
    and the first thing I did when I revived it was to add some drygas, and then
    put in a half tank of premium. I've run it down a quarter tank since then, and,
    like I said, I've read of other folk here w/similar troubles, and none
    of them mentioned letting the truck sit, or old gas. But if the problem goes
    away when I'm all the way into an entire tank of fresh, that would be a simple
    and easy solution.
    A little too easy for my luck, prob'ly....

    Any other Ideas?

    Thanks again,

    Drew.



  4. #4
    Nathan
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    For starters I'd check the float level. In the site glass on the front of
    carb it should be somewhere around the middle. If is below the glass, the
    float level is too low or the needle valve is stuck. Next, remove the air
    cleaner and use at least a full can of carb cleaner on the linkage,
    butterfly valves, and springs both inside and outside of carb. Try and get
    any carbon/sludge off. While ur doing this move the throtle by hand through
    its whole range. Let this dry, then hold open the butterfly valve and pull
    the throttle to full and release. You should see fuel squirt into the
    chamber. Put the air filter back on and fire the engine this may free up
    any thing that stuck during the storage time.
    My '85 FSM states possible cause of rough idle or stall as:
    Idle speed incorrect, slow jet clogged, idle mixture incorrect, fuel cut
    solenoid valve not open( you can across this one), choke faulty, or
    secondary throttle valve not closed. If above cleaning doesn't solve
    problem, I would turn up the idle. The adjustment screw is located on the
    rear of the carb. Its spring loaded and on the carb body not the linkage,
    these are high ilde adjustment which seems to be working properly. Stay
    simple before you start replacing stuff.
    Hope this helps
    Nathan
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  5. #5
    Tyedboyne
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    Nathan wrote: 
    chamber. Put the air filter back on and fire the engine this may free up 

    Ok, so to clarify---I should do all of the above with the engine cold? Let it
    dry before starting?

    My '85 FSM states possible cause of rough idle or stall as: 

    My Haynes book also mentioned the EGR valve as a possible culprit. I was
    planning to make cleaning the EGR filter my next step--if it ever stops
    frikkin' raining here.
     

    A-effing-Men!!!
     

    Me too. Many thanks for the advice,

    Drew.

  6. #6
    Nathan
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    Yea clean the carb cool, no need to be working over a hot engine. The
    cleaner will evaporate rather quickly, just make sure there are no puddles
    before you start the engine. It may be a bit rough at first while the
    cleaner inside the carb burns off.
    The EGR is a possibility you can clean the filter, check to function of the
    valve. Its a bladder type if you remove the vac line you should be able to
    hear/feel it move by blowing/sucking on the vac line.I think your Haynes
    manual also has a picture of the EGR tube. It is mounted on the intake
    manifold and the cylinder head. The gasket on the intake is replaceable at
    any parts store, the back gasket on the head is part of the manifold gasket
    so try your damnest not to tear it. This tube is often full of carbon use a
    bottle brush and carb cleaner to remove all the build up
    HTH
    Cheers
    Nathan
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  7. #7
    Den
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    I had a similar problem. It turned out to be a stuck butterfly.

    http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc26b3127cceb843522806980000001610

    http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc26b3127cceb843565387d10000001610

    http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc26b3127cceb84355a5468e0000001610

  8. #8
    Tyedboyne
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    >I had a similar problem. It turned out to be a stuck butterfly.

    Nice pics. But if this means I need to dismount and disassemble my carb, I'm
    SOL. That kinda work is just a leeetle bit beyond my talents.

    Drew.

  9. #9
    kevin
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    Hi all,
    I'm new to this group but I am a bit of a backyard mechanic. I recently bought an
    86 runner with the 4y. Had the same problem and it turned out to be the main body
    of the carby was loose. If you can move the top half of the carby and the bottom
    doesnt move then its most likely the cause. I found the gaskets between the main
    body and the butterfly assembly were allowing air into the system. The hotter it
    got the worse it got. I rebuilt the carby and havent had the problem since.
    Dont know if this will help but all suggestions are always good.
    rgds,
    Kevin

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  10. #10
    Brad
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    Re: R-22 idle problem

    These are all great ideas. However, if you started with old gas, you may
    have a clogged fuel filter. On my truck (84), this item is located in front
    of the fuel tank and easiest to get to through the right rear wheel well. be
    prepared to clip off the fuel lines or you'll have gas everywhere. Also,
    remeber which hose goes to which hole. When my truck runs like this, 9
    times out of 10 it is a clogged fuel filter.

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