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Audi: quattro in reverse?

  1. #1
    eBob.com
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    quattro in reverse?

    I've often wondered, does the quattro work in reverse? I.E. does quattro
    give me better traction when backing up on snow or ice?

    (Yes, I know ... I do have too much time on my hands.)

    Thanks, Bob



  2. #2
    C.R.
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    "eBob.com" <com> wrote in message
    news:VzbPb.31848$srv.hcvlny.cv.net... 

    Yes.
     

    Yes.
    --
    C.R. Krieger
    (Been there; done that)



  3. #3
    daytripper
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:12:53 GMT, "eBob.com" <com>
    wrote:
     

    Is there even such a thing as a uni-directional differential?

  4. #4
    Mike
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    daytripper wrote:
     

    No, but there are all-wheel drive systems that use electronically
    controlled clutches instead of differentials, and I'd imagine that these
    might not operate in reverse. It could be that the OP doesn't know or
    understand the difference.

    --
    Mike Smith


  5. #5
    Hairy
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    "Mike Smith" <DOT.org> wrote in message
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    quattro 

    Exhaust pipes at the back, and the seat with the round hand-rail faces the
    front?

    ;o)

    (Semi-non-facetious bit: like brakes, clutches only operate in one
    rotational and one linear dimension. Direction is irrelevant, just the
    outcome. A bit like a politician.. ;o)
    --

    Hairy One Kenobi

    Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
    reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
    in the first place. So there!



  6. #6
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: quattro in reverse?

    Hairy One Kenobi wrote: 

    Yes, but that's only *if* the clutch engages. Given that they're
    electronically controlled in such systems, the electronics could easily
    be programmed not to engage the clutch while in reverse.

    --
    Mike Smith


  7. #7
    Hairy
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    "Mike Smith" <DOT.org> wrote in message
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    But /why/ would someone do that..? Why would a rational engineer increase
    the cost of a product in order to reduce the performance, efficiency and
    safety?

    It makes no sense.

    H1K



  8. #8
    Mike
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
     

    What makes it cost more to disable the clutch operation? It's all
    software anyway. It probably looks something like this (just a
    wild-ass-guess example):

    if (wheelslip > THRESHOLD)
    {
    if (speed < CUTOFF)
    engage_clutch(MODE_ONE);
    else
    engage_clutch(MODE_TWO);
    }

    ....uh, or something. If they allowed operation in reverse, they might
    very well have to add more code, like this:

    if ((wheelslip > THRESHOLD) or (wheelslip < REVERSE_THRESHOLD))
    {
    if ((speed < CUTOFF) and (speed > REVERSE_CUTOFF))
    engage_clutch(MODE_ONE);
    else
    engage_clutch(MODE_TWO);
    }

    That's a little bit more code that someone has to write, someone has to
    maintain, someone has to test, one more thing to screw up, etc. Maybe
    it's just simpler (and better for the bottom line) to disallow operation
    of the clutch pack while in reverse gear.

    --
    Mike Smith


  9. #9
    Hairy
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    Re: quattro in reverse?

    "Mike Smith" <DOT.org> wrote in message
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    increase 

    You've made my point, but then missed it. How about if you replace the code
    with:

    <Absolutely nothing>

    Which seems even easier to design, code, and maintain ;o)

    H1K



  10. #10
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: quattro in reverse?

    Hairy One Kenobi wrote: 

    Then how does the system determine when to engage?

    --
    Mike Smith



 

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