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    Richard
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    ... Quattro Expense and test drive results

    I am like sooo close. Just wrapping my head around the price.

    The past weekend I tried the TSX and G35X. Results were:

    TSX: OK, nice power, understeer, pretty good value and would consider
    it if we are going FWD and Japanese only.

    G35X: kind of like a biggish America saloon car, pretty good road
    feel, big cabin and a bit noisy and not an A4. And the sales guy was a
    maroon. Bad experience: we came back from the test drive and had to
    wait for him to find us in the showroom. Bad move. Right after we
    drove the Infiniti we went back and did another drive in the A4
    Quatrro (I did a test drive the weekend prior). Mmmm, nice car. We
    went over exactly the same roads, looked for bumps, drove one side of
    the car in the dirt to feel the effects of going off road and back
    onto the hard top and the A4 wins. The Infiniti has a big engine and
    nice crap in the cabin but they are not up to German standards. Maybe
    in another 10 years. A4 is still on top, we just have to find the
    features and colour we want and then negotiate. The A4 quattro knows
    the road and it feels like it is glued down. And the torque is a ton
    better than the Infiniti. I checked this morning in a Consumers Report
    and the Audi hit 166ft/lbs at 1950 RPMs and the Infiniti’s same torque
    but about 4700 or so. Not much pull and you have to wait to either get
    out of trouble or get away from it. And both cars we tested had
    automatic. The A4 Sport mode rips, better than the standard and it
    also has manu-matic or what ever they call it. I tried out the manu
    mode in the G35 and it was kind of ugly. The G35 engine is what the
    Japanese think the Americans want: more power, more noise at the cost
    of actually building a good car around it. They use the same engine is
    about 10 models which is good for commonality but they miss the mark
    when it comes to driving.

    As for the expense, quatrro is a safety feature. I am just about to
    get the list of cars with the packages I want. And the A4 FWD CVT: I
    would pick it before TSX. Audi also includes 4 year bumper to bumper,
    cheap money to loan, the dealer wants my sale and shows me he does and
    a much much better experience than with Infiniti. And the Infiniti
    sales guy chewed gum the entire time we with him.

    This was Audi's sale to lose and they hit it out of the park every
    time. As for the Japanese: come back in about ten years. And BMW and
    Mercedes: too much dough for the same thing which is not as good as
    the bullet proof quattro. I am looking forward to owning the A4 and
    going on a fab road trip thru the mountains this spring. My wife
    doesn't normally (never as a matter of fact) drive on road trips but
    this one, guaranteed she will have some left seat time.


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    Pete
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results


    "Richard Potato" <cu> wrote in message
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    Wait, was that salesman's name Tha Ghee by any chance?

    ;-)

    Cheers,

    Pete



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    Dave
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    Dick writes:
     

    Congrats! Way to go!
    Dave

    http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








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    Richard
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:47:39 +0100, "Pete" <com>
    wrote:
     

    His name i Jim Gumchew. Use to have a mullet until his hair thinned
    out. He was the 'perfect' car salesman. Not a compliment. 


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    Richard
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results

    On 20 Jan 2004 21:51:44 GMT, comPirate (Dave LaCourse)
    wrote:
     
    Easy for me. All I had to do was the drive the car. Audi has done all
    the hard work. Maybe except for me getting the dough for the car. 


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    Tha
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    "Pete" <com> wrote in message
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    that's almost funny at least I have a job not asking my mummy for money and
    telling her not to come to the basement.



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    Tha
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results

    "Pete" <com> wrote in message
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    and my statement about the oil changes was proven correct, so who's the
    dummy now??



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    Dave
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results

    Tha Ghee writes:
     

    Uh, where is the proof? If you are saying the Quattro costs more because it
    requires more oil than a Chevy beater, then you are correct. But other cars
    carry as much oil and more as the Audi, and they too are charged the same
    price, plus the difference in the amount of oil. There is no difference in the
    Quattro Audi's oil change price than the same model without Quattro. Period!
    Dave

    http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








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    Pete
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results


    "Tha Ghee" <com> wrote in message news:400f1cd6$0$36184 
    the 

    You, of course.

    Once again, you've shown everyone that you don't have a clue about
    anything. If you get charged more than the "manager's special" because
    your engine requires more than 5 quarts of oil, then it has NOTHING to
    do with quattro. Whether it's a FWD or AWD, the engine oil sump
    capacity remains the SAME.

    FYI... an A4 1.8T quattro (and FWD) has about 4 qt oil sump. An A4 3.0
    quattro (and FWD) has about 6 qt oil sump.

    Pete



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    Richard
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    Re: ... Quattro Expense and test drive results

    On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:24:56 +0100, "Pete" <com>
    wrote:
     

    The Ghee is threadbare.

    Audi has bumper to bumper coverage for 4 years. I have not seen the
    warranty in person, so to speak, but have been told that it includes
    ALL consumables. Including brake pads. IOW, I pay for nothing other
    than gas for the car for 4 years. Tires are of course not included but
    I have been told that I will not have to spend any $ for the first 4
    years. No other company (maybe MB sort of) offers this warranty. It is
    worth about $2K or so over 4 years. That is worth something that other
    companies don't offer. So for the same $ for a similar car (G35X for
    eg) you can save some $.



 
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