Toyota Prius: Pruis and E85

Absolutely not. I *believe* that the manual for my 2002 says up to E15 is
OK. Check your manual for confirmation.
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"John Baker" <net> wrote in message
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"John Baker" <net> wrote in message
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No, not okay. It has been tried and a few dedicated enthusiasts insist the
car eventually gets used to it, but using E85 sets the "check engine" light.
AFAIK there is no actual harm done.

Mike

"Michael Pardee" <com> wrote in message
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Besides, if everyone used E85 we'd starve to death.

Bill <now> wrote:
 

Huh?

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"Mike Rosenberg" <invalid> wrote in message
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Ethanol is made from foodstuffs, typically corn. There was a recent article
on-line about the amount of increase in corn prices that can be attributed
to the increased demand of the newly built ethanol plants, but the link is
long gone now. Guess news gets stale fast!

When we burn ethanol we are burning food.

Mike

Quoting from page 203 of the US 2004 Prius Owner's Manual, Section 3
"Information Before Driving Your Toyota," Fuel section:

"Toyota allows the use of oxygenate
blended gasoline where the oxygenate
content is up to 10% ethanol or 15%
MTBE."

So, you're fine with E10, but nothing higher. The Prius is NOT a
Flex-Fuel vehicle.

A short term study of E85 on a Classic Prius found reduced fuel
economy, some higher emissions, and a check engine light, but no long
term study has been done. (Ethanol is known to break down some
components of the fuel system and engine if a car isn't properly
designed to run with high concentrations of E85.)

Michael Pardee wrote in alt.autos.toyota.prius:
 

On the other hand, maybe the high cost of corn will make high fructose
corn syrup so expensive that soda makers will start putting REAL SUGAR
back into soft drinks....

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"Mike Rosenberg" <invalid> wrote in message
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Mike, Americans burn 500 million gallons of gas each day. Replacing 85% of
that with Ethanol, whether made from corn or switchgrass, would take more
arable acres than we have. In other words, we would have to quit growing
all manner of food products, quit grazing cattle, quit feeding chickens,
etc. E10 works fairly well. It eliminates the need for MTBE, absorbs
condensation, uses otherwise excess farmland, reduces the price of vodka and
gin..., but E85 is a food-for-gas program. It disturbs me that GM talks up
their E85 vehicles and politicians in the farm belt use it as a vehicle to
gain the farm vote. The math is simple and most meaningful if you do it
yourself. Go to the USDA site and look up ethanol production per acre of
switchgrass. Look up the number of arable acres in the U.S. Ethanol has
less energy than gasoline so it actually takes 500 million gallons of
ethanol to replace 85% of 500 million gallons of gas.