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    Frank
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    Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Just bought the 2004 Frontier truck with 5 speed manual transmission and
    trying to figure out how to park this sucker on a steep incline. All the
    stick shifts I have had has the parking brake on the center where you
    could control it with the right hand while you could clutch and gas at
    the same time to prevent it from rolling backward on a steep incline.
    The Frontier, on the other hand, has the left foot operated parking
    brake with right hand release. How do you Frontier owners parallel park
    this sucker on a very steep incline without rollback and without burning
    up the clutch? TIA


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    ppointer@nospamindspring.com
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Frank Wong wrote:
     
    Um -- you put the transmission in neutral and take your foot off the
    clutch? All the while keeping your right foot on the brake...


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    Frank
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift



    com wrote:
     


    Ok, then going forward uphill with a parked car 1' away in front and 1'
    away in back (not unrealistic in San Francisco with inclines almost at
    45 degrees and just inches to play with for parallel parking), you put
    the transmission in 1st, give it some gas and one of 4 things will
    happen without the hand brake. 1. Burn the clutch and go forward; 2
    Truck dies; 3 Truck rolls back and hit the car below or; 4 Truck pops
    forward and hit the car in front. Would be easier if the Frontier had a
    hand brake like most of the vehicles with manual transmission. Not much
    problem driving the truck around in San Francisco so far with a little
    roll back. But parallel parking on a steep hill with this foot brake
    setup is a challenge. (BTW, I've parallel parked my other car and truck
    with hand brakes without problems.)


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    ppointer@nospamindspring.com
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Frank wrote: 
    Now I have a better understanding. I agree the design that requires
    your left foot to disengage the parking brake has this major
    shortcoming. One technique I would try if I were in your situation is
    to apply gas and brake simultaneously with your right foot. I have no
    idea if it is possible in a Frontier, but it definitely was possible in
    the '94 PF 5sp I used to own. The technique has a name -- heel toe --
    and I use it all the time when down shifting as I approach an
    intersection in my manual transmission Toyota.


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    Frank
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift



    com wrote:
     

    Thanks, I never needed to learn toe and heel until now with the
    Frontier. Should work but may need to replace my clutch sooner as this 4
    banger doesn't have much low end torque.


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    ppointer@nospamindspring.com
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Frank wrote: 
    Good -- I'm glad you're willing to give it a try. The name, heel & toe,
    is a misnomer, in case you don't know. The correct technique is to use
    the ball of your right foot against the brake, and the right-most edge
    of your right foot for the gas. Then when you are slowing for an
    intersection, you apply brake, then simultaneously depress the clutch,
    down shift, goose the gas, and let out the clutch. Sounds complicated,
    but it's fun after you get good at it. Will work in a similar fashion
    when you're stuck at a stop going uphill and don't want to roll backwards.


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    iBuyMinis.Us
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Two opinions

    Was this truck drive tested before purchase and the braking system
    evaluated? It's not a defect or wrong engineering if the product was
    actually purchased.

    Emmanuel who loves his 04 CrewCab Fronty.

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    Frank
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Oh, the foot brake is fine just stupid engineering, considering its a
    manual transmission, where you need to do the heel and toe thing as
    describe by "ppoint" above. Don't buy this truck if you need to parallel
    park it on a steep hill or else learn heel and toe. Hand brake should
    have been essential on this puppy. Just my opinion. This is my fifth
    auto with manual transmission but the Frontier is the only one that does
    not have a hand brake.

    Test drive all right, good brakes too, but there were no hills where the
    dealer is located so that caught me off guard regarding the parallel
    parking dilemma. Would still have brought it. Nice truck, better price
    and with much, much more features than the Toyota, love it. Would be
    even better if it came with a front dome light, glove box light, locking
    gas cap and a couple more tie downs. But hey this is what aftermarket
    add-ons is for.



    iBuyMinis.Us wrote:
     


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    Chuck
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    Re: Parallel parking on an incline with stick shift

    Learn to drive a stick. I live in the SF Bay area, I've never bought
    anything but a stick shift ('72 240-Z, '70 PU, '87 Pathfinder, '95 PF,
    '01 PF, also inherited an '87 Corvette, ALL with sitcks), and I've never
    needed the hand brake to park in the City. Clutch in, real brake on,
    start car, hand brake off, GO).

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