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  1. #1
    eko
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    New A3.. juddering clutch pedal

    Hi,

    I've had my new Audi A3 1.6 FSI for about four weeks now. Right from the
    start, the clutch pedal would vibrate pretty heavily when trying to get the
    "bite" on it. This would only generally happen when the car has got a
    little bit warmer, nearer the 90 degree point on the temp gauge.

    Basically, then the car is cold, bringing the clutch up to the "bite" (am I
    using the right phrase here?) would be normal, with no major vibrations of
    any sort. The more the journey lasted, the more the clutch would vibrate in
    this "bite" position, to the point where the engine was physically making
    this knocking noise in tandem with the vibrations from the clutch.

    The weird thing is that it's intermittent. It would happen for a few
    seconds then stop and normal "service" would resume. Then a few seconds
    later, it would come back again. This is most notable when I'm in traffic,
    where there's a lot of stopping and moving.

    The car seems to drive fine otherwise, with no issues on gear changing and
    no weird noises coming from the engine.

    As you can tell, I'm no expert when it comes to cars, so any help or insight
    on this would be greatly appreciated.

    TIA!

    ...Ray
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  2. #2
    Steve
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    Re: New A3.. juddering clutch pedal

    Ray,
    Sounds to me like a warped pressure plate or malfunctioning/damaged clutch.
    It might also be an oil leak onto the clutch plate - and the oil is burning
    off after the clutch slips for a while.
    It's still covered by warranty - what does the dealer say...."they're all
    like that"?
    BTW, I think by "bite" you are referring to "point of engagement"
    Cheers!
    Steve Sears
    1987 Audi 5kTQ
    1980 Audi 5k
    1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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  3. #3
    Michael
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    Re: New A3.. juddering clutch pedal

    eko wrote: 

    Warranty should cover that, it's not normal behaviour.

    - Yak

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    eko
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    "Steve Sears" <on.ca> wrote in message
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    Thanks Steve, much appreciated. I have it booked in at the dealer for this
    Monday, so I'll print out your reply and show it to them.. hope they can get
    it sorted out. Just drove back from the city and each time I had to move
    off from a stand still the thing would be juddering like crazy. I'll let
    you know what the dealer says.

    Yes, I think "point of engagement" would be what I was trying to say.

    Thanks again.

    ...Ray
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    eko
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    Thanks Yak. I do believe any repair should be covered by the warranty here.
    Have an appointment with the dealer on Monday, so will see how it goes.

    Thanks again.

    ...Ray
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    eko
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    "Steve Sears" <on.ca> wrote in message
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    Well, visited the dealer and had one of the guys take a quick look at it.
    First he mentioned that I shouldn't have the clutch on the "point of
    engagement" so much, as it'll wear down the clutch parts themselves. That's
    true I guess, though I did point out that I only have the clutch in this
    position when preparing to move off from a red light, for example, and for
    no more than perhaps 10 seconds. Do you guys drive like this?

    Maybe I'm just a terrible driver, but this is how I drove my Peugeot 206 for
    5 years, and no broken clutch there.. or perhaps I was lucky?

    Anyway, he continued to say that the clutch was absolutely fine and I had
    nothing to worry about. So now I just leave her in neutral when at a stop,
    then only engage first when it's time to move off. This way, I never even
    get near the "point of engagement" as I'm applying power when moving anyway,
    so I guess it "eliminates" the juddering issue.. :|

    But is this guy missing the point? Or am I mistaken?

    ...Ray
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    Peter
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    No way! This will cause the clutch to overheat and wear out. The
    clutch should only ever be fully engaged or fully disengaged other than
    for the second, or so, that it takes to get the car from stationary, up
    to a road speed that matches a low sutainable engine speed in your
    lowest gear. Even on a hill start, it shouldn't be necessary to have
    the clutch slipping for more than a second.
     

    In my view, you have been driving incorrectly. Have you ever been
    taught how to drive properly with manual gearbox?

    --
    Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')

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    eko
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    "Peter Bell" <org.uk> wrote in message
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    Thanks for the advice Peter, I guess I've been driving badly in this sense
    then. Last couple of trips, I've done exactly what you said and only
    everything seems to be fine.

    This isn't a forum to ask about driving techniques (basics?), so I'll
    apologise to all now for my next question. In a traffic jam, would you
    normally hit neutral every time the car needs to stop? I used to hold the
    clutch on the "point of engagement" with no power and holding the brake
    waiting for the car in front to move.
     

    Yeah, my bad. It's embarrassing, but I'd rather be told now than have a
    smoking clutch. I guess I got lucky with my previous car then.

    Thanks!

    ...Ray
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    Graham
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    Re: New A3.. juddering clutch pedal

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    Personally I prefer the term "biting point" to describe the moment when the
    clutch kicks in. :-)

    In my A3, you wouldn't be able to hold it at the biting point without power.
    If you do, it will engage the anti-stall mechanism and apply a small amount
    of power to prevent a stall.

    When I was taught how to drive, I was taught that when you arrive at a red
    light, you selected first gear and waited. While I dont do that now, I
    usually arrive at a red light and select neutral and engage the handbrake if
    necessary. However, if the lights are about to change I'll keep it in
    first.

    HTH



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    eko
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    "Graham" <net> wrote in message
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    Thanks Graham. I called it the "bite" myself on my first post.. I guess
    there's no "offiicial" phrase for this, so this will do all the same.
     
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    Actually, I wasn't aware of such a mechanism on my A3, though I have yet to
    stall it since getting it, even with my "unorthodox clutching" technique.
     
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    Yeah, my original instructor said the same thing. When the lights were red,
    engage first and wait. He told me to have the "bite" on the clutch in first
    gear, ready when it was time to go, and then apply power while lifting the
    clutch up slowly. I guess I was still following this now.. having the bite
    on while holding the brake, and when the lights go green, brake comes up,
    power goes down as clutch comes up. As Peter suggested in his post, this is
    probably poor driving skill and will likely get my clutch damaged.

    When you say you keep it in first when the lights are about to change, is
    the clutch fully in or are you getting the bite on it also?

    Thanks.

    ...Ray
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