Honda: New 03 Civic gearbox "thump"

Andrew wrote: 
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Andrew,

That's just the synchro cones grabbing and spinning the tranny and
clutch plate up to the same speed as the rear wheels. Generally they'd
be going about the right speed when you shift during acceleration, and
the engine noise would prevent you hearing it. Honda didn't feel they
had to 'mask' that noise because what you're describing is never noticed
/ heard / felt in daily usage.

'Curly'

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> Andrew wrote: 


Curly,

Thanks for the response! I agree that that's probably the sound, but it
does happen in daily driving - gearing down. Common in town from 3 ->
2. Mind you, it's more noticeable doing what I describe above, but I
first noticed it during normal driving. It's not just a noise either,
but a 'bump' too. I feel it in the seat. The whole point of the
synchros is to smooth the process if you will. If there's a bump,
what's the point? It doesn't happen in any other 5 speed we've tested.
Mind you - the civic is the most refined car we've tested in its price
range! I just have to decide if it's annoying enough to be a deal
breaker (probably not)...

Cheers!

Andrew

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
 


Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the synchros only come into play as
the clutch is let out and the car is in gear? This thud occurs when the
clutch is fully depressed or disengaged and one flips through the gears.
Sort of like the clutch is 2% engaged even when fully on the floor.
It's my understanding that the synchros aren't doing anything at that
point. Think of how quickly you can stir through the 2-3-4-5-4-3-2
series with the clutch in - the synchros are matching wheel/flywheel
speed all through that? It's unnecessary.

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No.

This thud occurs when the 

Gear flipping is when the syncros do their stuff.

Stephen Bigelow wrote:
 

K - Thanks!

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