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Subaru: Never ending Subaru Problems!

  1. #1
    Sam
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    Never ending Subaru Problems!

    Hi,

    Wanted to see if anyone else experience the following onslaught of issues
    with their Subaru.

    I bought a brand new 1999 Outback wagon (back in 99). The following is a
    list of issues (in almost chronological order :-) )

    1. Key less entry does not work. (this was day 3, I should have returned the
    car). They replaced the whole system including the door locks.
    2. Does not drive straight. After numerous alignments and tire changes it
    finally drives close to straight.
    3. Exhaust rattles -- required replacing all the exhaust manifolds.
    4. Mysterious rattle at 2400 RPM, ended up being something on the firewall,
    they wrapped it up in foam (hardly a fix if you ask me, but at least I know
    what it is).
    5. Clutch bearing went bust. Replaced clutch and fly wheel.
    6. Engine light kept coming on, misfire in one of the cylinders. This one
    took some time to fix. But fixes included taking the engine head apart and
    machining it. Changing sparkplugs and wires. Endless number of tuning.
    Finally they changed the computer and things seemed to get better. At least
    it has not comeback yet.
    7. Speedometer stopped working.

    I think I got them all. But I maybe forgetting one or two. Just curious if
    anyone else had similar problems. I suspect that they had a batch of bad
    cars come of the production line, and they put a lid on it, cause they would
    always find a solution to my issues after calling around to other
    dealerships and regional mangers. But to me they would always say I was
    unique and they/anyone else has never seen any of these issue before. I am
    starting to feel like I own a Ford Pinto :-)



  2. #2
    Josh
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!


    Sounds like you got a lemon and a bad dealership....

    and now 4 years later your bitter about it - you should have returned it right
    away and asked for a new car...

    On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:13:48 GMT, "Sam" <com>
    wrote:
     


  3. #3
    Carl
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    Probably too late now but a discussion with the 'zone rep.' guy might be
    in order - ask for an extended warranty. Best lines to use - "How would
    you feel in my place?" "What do I tell my friends, relatives and
    coworkers when they ask how I like my Subaru?" "If this happened to you,
    would you buy another Subaru?" "Maybe what happened to me is 1% of your
    customers - but its happening to me 100% of the time."

    good luck

    Carl
    1 Lucky Texan


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  4. #4
    Ragnar
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    Gee, you've had some hard luck. But why wait 4 years to whine about it?

    Ragnar
    2000 Outback Sport with ZERO defects



  5. #5
    Sam
    Guest

    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    Not to be defensive, but I did try the lemon route, as it turns out, that is
    much harder then it sounds. Also all the repairs were under warranty, so at
    the end of the day it did not cost me anything, except headache. The thing
    that got me going again is that the speedometer stopped working, and the
    warranty is no longer valid. Either way, I was trying to figure out if
    others had similar experience, cause I can not believe I am the only one.


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  6. #6
    Sam
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    Not really whining. More like death by 1000 cuts :-). Just trying to see if
    anyone else had the same hard luck. Either I am truly alone (as the dealer
    claims) or there are others. Just looking for the "broken down" Subaru
    support group :-).


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  7. #7
    BoB
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:56:33 GMT, "Sam"
    <com> wrote:
     

    First year models were not a good choice in the old days but the
    chances of unknown problems still has potential today. Against my
    better judgement I bought the first model Legacy sedan, 1990. Did
    not even consider Subaru's before then. I was amazed at how perfect
    the car was for a first model design. But you can't win 'em all.
    Forester problems diminished considerably after 98/99 but I waited
    until '02 to buy one. There was talk of major design change for '03
    so decided I'd better not wait any longer. Been real happy with it
    as I also was with my '95 Legacy wagon. Better luck next time.

    BoB



  8. #8
    Dominic
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    <Sam> wrote: 

    [...]

    Sounds like maybe your car was made first thing on a Monday or just before
    quitting time of Friday :-)

    I guess my 95 Legacy (160,000km) was made on a Wednesday because this is its
    list:
    - vibration at 100km/h - factory tires needed re-balancing
    - clutch slipping (at 80,000km) - new clutch needed (saw new and old clutch
    together - not a manufacturing problem)
    - oil pump gasket leaking (at 100,000km) - replaced gasket, leak stopped
    - passanger side mirror missing - that branch from the ice-storm finally
    fell out of the tree!
    - right front drive axle (at 120,000km) - replaced with a re-built
    - heat sheild rattle (at 160,000km) - removed heat sheild
    - plus the usual stuff replace as per the service schedule.

    I agree, I got lucky, but it shouldn't have to be up to luck. All that time
    with the car sitting in the shop when you excepted to be able to use it,
    isn't right.

    If the problem was that everyone was lazy the day your car was made, then
    they should admit to this after a certain threshold of problem, and agree to
    re-build the engine and re-install the transaxel, to ensure that all gaskets
    and seals are proplerly done etc...



  9. #9
    L.
    Guest

    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    If you really want info about reliability that has some statistical
    value, you need to do some research on Consumer Rpts, Edmonds, etc.
    For what little it's worth, I have the same car. The only non-routine
    thing that has ever needed fixing is, coincidentally, the speedometer.
    Beginning about a month ago at 107K, it started working only
    intermittently (along with the odometer, of course). I'm told it
    needs a new speedo head, which costs about $150 parts + $150 labor.
    I'll probably hold off until spring to fix it.

    All in all, I'm very happy with the car.

    "Sam" <com> wrote in message news:<0_Eqb.1029$news.prodigy.com>... 

  10. #10
    Mike
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    Re: Never ending Subaru Problems!

    i've not been very impressed (actually quite disappointed) with my '99
    legacy either, but i'm not going to bitch about that again, you can
    probably search for my posts. i just wanted to comment on your
    'doesn't drive straight' situation. i had a similar problem when i
    first bought my car. it's still not perfect, but i noticed that it's
    very dependant on the surface i'm driving on (there may be some
    interaction with the all wheel drive). when i'm on a concrete
    highway, the car drives perfectly straight. i can drive for miles at
    a time without touching the steering wheel. but if i'm on pavement
    then it pulls slightly to the left. don't know what's up with that.

    mike



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