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Toyota Trucks: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

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    news.comcast.giganews.com
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    MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    Hello,
    I have a 2002 SR5 access cab 4wd.
    Today I parked the right side of my truck in a snow pile.
    As the right rear tire got up into the snow I would spin.

    I figured the Limited slip differential would eventualy lock and the other
    wheel on asphalt would engage.
    It never did.

    So am I dealing with a failing Limited Slip differential at only 16,000
    miles ?
    This would be quite strange considering I've been on dirt roads, maybe
    twice.

    Shouldn't the thing lock up after some number of rotations, otherwise what
    is the point of buying the option ?



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    Roger
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    "news.comcast.giganews.com" wrote: 

    Most limited slip diffs can only handle a certain difference in traction between the two wheels. If the difference is too high (like one wheel on dry pavement and one on snow/ice) there is not enough traction on the slipping wheel to get the diff to lock
    up hard enough to get you moving. One thing you can try to help is to ease the parking brake on to load up the slipping wheel and "fool" the limited slip into thinking the traction is higher than it actually is. A limited slip diff s called "limited"
    for a reason, its not a 100% locking differential:
    http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_TechInfo.shtml#DiffInfo

    --
    Roger

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    vlj
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    "news.comcast.giganews.com"
    <com> sez:

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    <snip>

    While experimenting with my LSD (not the kind I did back in the 70's :-), if
    the "slick" wheel spin was too fast/abrupt, the unit would not engage. If I
    went lighter on the gas pedal and the slick side started spinning slowly,
    things would lock-up and the other side on the pavement would get power.

    Good LSD'ing to ya,
    VLJ
    --
    If it has tits or tires, its gonna be trouble.



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    C.
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?



    "news.comcast.giganews.com" wrote: 

    This is not unusual behavior. Sometimes you need a little resistance to
    get the limited slip to engage. Lightly applying the parking brake will
    often do the trick. Here is a link to a Ford forum that discusses this
    very problem -
    http://www.f150online.com/forums/archive/topic/135660-1.html

    Ed

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    MDT
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    news.comcast.giganews.com wrote:
     
    Well, it can slip, it has clutches. Accel easily after letting it stop
    spinning. When there is a big difference from side ot side, it can slip,
    so accel easily.

    --





    Inasmuch as the Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking,
    consider this:

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
    Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

    It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary
    Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

    It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to
    destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call
    the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in
    Florida! TWICE!!!!!

    Damn our military is GREAT!!


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    news.comcast.giganews.com
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    Basicaly I started the activity with little throttle.
    I could let it slip simpily by releasing the break.
    So I was not on the throttle and I allowed slow numerous rotations of the
    loose wheel.

    This happened to me again today.
    Steep driveway.
    A narrow strip of ice was left over, (due to my wheel tracks)
    As I approached the garage everything was spinning at the same speed, then
    boom
    one of the rear wheels hit that Ice, I spun out and never regained traction.

    I had to back up and make a run for the garage and let momentum carry me in.

    So if this is how it's supposed to work then why did I pay for the option.
    It doesn't help me when I need it and assists me breaking loose both rear
    wheels under thrust while turning in an intersection.

    So why is this all bad and no good, everything I am seeing is consistent
    with an open diferential open.

    If I do a test where a jack one side up, and I never engage the other wheel
    and pull foward, doesn't this indicate I've got a warranty claim.
    I need to get this fixed before I am out of warranty.

    "MDT Tech®" <com> wrote in message
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    other 
    what 



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    Roger
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    "news.comcast.giganews.com" wrote: 

    If it is a clutch-type LSD, are you sure you have the proper LSD additives in the differential gear oil? And are you sure you have a limited slip in the first place (check the axle code in the model info tag to be sure). Have you tried the brake biasing
    technique, for a rear LSD, use the parking brake, gradually apply it as you bring up the engine power slowly and see if you can load up the LSD enough to get some torque to the wheel that has traction. Its quite effective when you can master the
    technique, I was able to lock up my TrueTrac LSD even with one tire in the air.

    --
    Roger

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    Paul
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?


    "news.comcast.giganews.com"
    <com> wrote in message
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    wheel 
    IMO, nothing you read here will relieve your snit about this. So why not
    take it into the dealer, file a warranty claim, and then see what falls out?

    -paul



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    bearman
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?


    Thank you, Paul. See you on the radio Saturday.

    Bearman

    "Paul Cassel" <com> wrote in message
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    MDT
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    Re: MDT Tech help Is my Limited Slip diff is failing ?

    news.comcast.giganews.com wrote:
     


    Make sure it has it forst, then if it does, take it in, you still under
    60K miles?

    --





    Inasmuch as the Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking,
    consider this:

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the
    Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

    It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary
    Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

    It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to
    destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call
    the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in
    Florida! TWICE!!!!!

    Damn our military is GREAT!!



 

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