Mazda Miata: Mazda 6 - Did I buy a FORD!?!

On 2004-06-21, richard sarradet <net> wrote:

Yes, you bougt a ford. IIRC The "6" has somewhere around 60%
US/Canadian content and about 20% Japanese. Engine and
transmissions are both US products, I believe
 

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> Yes, you bougt a ford. IIRC The "6" has somewhere around 60% 

Oh no! All right. The repair order on my FIRST problem has some terms I
don't recognize:

"Customer sts; perform msp02; evap monitoring"

Can anyone translate for me?

Thanx

The "6" is a Ford redesign of the 626. They hit the mark on most of
their goals.

I bought the wife one as a replacement for the Sable LS she killed.
(Slid sideways into/over a median and lunched the unibody rails and
punched the transaxle in about 14-16 inches... But, ZERO injuries!)

I've not had any complaints about the vehicle, and the only time she
complains is when I take the keys...



On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:30:27 -0700, "richard sarradet"
<net> wrote:
 

"Oh bother," said Pooh Bear when he saw the mushroom cloud...

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richard sarradet wrote: 

My Maxda 6s is faultless so far- altho only 3 months, 5000 miles.

You didn't buy a "Ford" exactly- but you brought the first example of a
new Ford empire mid-size "platform". Over the next few years, the Ford
500, a possibly smaller Ford (?"Fairlane"), matching Mercury and
Lincoln, and possibly Volvo cars will have the same platform, which
means basic internal pieces and layout.

Mazda sedans have been built in the US for years; the old MX-6 and the
Ford Probe were built together in one place (Flat Rock MI- same place as
the 626 and Cougar, now used for the 6, and soon for the Mustang).

This sort of thing is necessary to control costs- you make repeated use
of well-designed internal parts, then switch styling, engines, and
exteriors between nameplates to keep the customers interested. It makes
sense- I really don't care who makes the door hinges and the side impact
bars, as long as they work.

Our Miatas are a rare example of a non-shared platform (altho the engine
is a decendent of an old 323 engine). Only its long lifespan without a
full rebuild has made the Miata a profitable enterprise for Mazda.

Joe
Silver '99 Miata
Green '04 6s

In article <rr.com>, jchase <rr.com>
wrote:
 

Hey, I put 142k miles on my '94 Probe and only just recently had my
first mechanical problem with it (had to rebuild the alternator). This
Mazda-Ford also lead me to buy my '99 Miata!

Cheers,

jgb

L Bader <rr.com> wrote: 

My 2003 V6 went through the recalls. One was an overnighter at the dealership
for the glue removal on the doors. The other replaced something in the fuel
line.

Afterwards, I've seen 4 CELs. The dealership has told me all four were
misses. I had a string of rentals to address the issues. One CEL occurred
right after taking the car back from a recall servicing.

On the fifth CEL, the dealership refused to take the car. They said it
was not an issue but a firmware error. (I despise claims like this)
They claimed the firmware was authored for Japanese driving habits and
that the CEL was firing because I am an Amelican.

So I drove around with the very annoying check engine light glaring
at me. Oddly enough, it went away on its own. It came back again for
a short goodbye after which it's never been seen again.

Dunno. At this point, don't care. I think the dealership refused to
take it in because of lemon laws, but who knows.

DESPITE all the minor annoyances and 5 of the 6 cylinders working, the
Mazda6 has still been a very strong car. It has some of the best
features and power to cost ratio that I've seen. I figure buying a
new production car comes with these problems. But hopefully that's
all of them.

On 28 Jun 2004 17:29:13 GMT, Brian <edu> wrote:
 

Ahh... There's the difference. I've got the wife in a 4-cylinder vice
the V-6. Maybe powerplant issues more than anything else. (Glue
aside...)


'97 STO, "Chouki"

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Brian wrote: 

They did, eh?
 

I despise claims like that as well and would have strongly encouraged them
to take another look at it.
 

Of course that's why they didn't want to take it in. What I don't understand
is how you claim that they "refused". Did they look you right in the eye and
tell you they wouldn't fix the car? Did they tell you they couldn't get it
in until next month?

I dunno about anyone else, but if a dealership looked me in the eye and
refused to service the brand new car I'd purchased from them, I'd have been
spitting nails.
 

I wouldn't bet on it--I may be only 26, but I do know that it's a bad idea
to assume your brand new car is just going through some growing pains.

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