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Jeep: K&N vs Airaid

  1. #1
    Pablo
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    K&N vs Airaid

    Does anyone have a positive or negative experience with either of these air
    inake system?. In particular on a '99 TJ.



  2. #2
    HarryS
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    Re: K&N vs Airaid

    Both are good for what they are, save your money. Unless you have done some
    serious modifications such as cams, lifters, pistons, etc.,it is a waste.
    Some change their exhaust and intake and swear they are getting performance.
    But, when measured on a dynamometer there is usually very little change.
    Think about it if it was that simple why doesn't the auto makers do it.

    For that matter why won't the manufacturers of horse power add-ons guarantee
    their claims? They all tout more and better performance but they are like
    an alligator, all mouth and no ass.

    The only true way to gain HP on a computer engine is to remap your computer
    for better performance. I bet my friend with a remap my 04 TJ would have
    more and better performance than his modified 04 TJ. He had about $800.00 in
    exhaust and engine modifications that he did himself. He laughed and said
    how are we going to prove it, I said a dyno test and the looser pays for all
    the testing.

    I paid a local speed shop to remap the OBC and the same fellow did both our
    DYNOs for $175.00 each. The guy charged me a $150.00 to remap my TJ and he
    said with better performance that the gas mileage would drop by at least 1
    or 2 mpg. After all said and done I had 7.5 more horsepower and 3.2% more
    torque at a lower RPM than my friend with an overall increase in HP over a
    stock engine by %18.

    So for a $150.00 vs. over $800.00 in modifications my TJ was better off.
    Save your money and have a remap done or buy the remap tool for around
    $400.00.
    --
    HarryS My 2¢

    "Pablo" <net> wrote in message
    news:com...
    | Does anyone have a positive or negative experience with either of these
    air
    | inake system?. In particular on a '99 TJ.
    |
    |



  3. #3
    HarryS
    Guest

    Re: K&N vs Airaid

    | Both are good for what they are, save your money. Unless you have done
    some
    | serious modifications such as cams, lifters, pistons, etc.,it is a waste.
    | Some change their exhaust and intake and swear they are getting
    performance.
    | But, when measured on a dynamometer there is usually very little change.
    | Think about it if it was that simple why doesn't the auto makers do it.
    |
    | For that matter why won't the manufacturers of horse power add-ons
    guarantee
    | their claims? They all tout more and better performance but they are like
    | an alligator, all mouth and no ass.
    |
    | The only true way to gain HP on a computer engine is to remap your
    computer
    | for better performance. I bet my friend with a remap my 04 TJ would have
    | more and better performance than his modified 04 TJ. He had about $800.00
    in
    | exhaust and engine modifications that he did himself. He laughed and said
    | how are we going to prove it, I said a dyno test and the looser pays for
    all
    | the testing.
    |
    | I paid a local speed shop to remap the OBC and the same fellow did both
    our
    | DYNOs for $175.00 each. The guy charged me a $150.00 to remap my TJ and
    he
    | said with better performance that the gas mileage would drop by at least 1
    | or 2 mpg. After all said and done I had 7.5 more horsepower and 3.2% more
    | torque at a lower RPM than my friend with an overall increase in HP over a
    | stock engine by %18.
    |
    | So for a $150.00 vs. over $800.00 in modifications my TJ was better off.
    | Save your money and have a remap done or buy the remap tool for around
    | $400.00.
    | --
    | HarryS My 2¢
    |
    | "Pablo" <net> wrote in message
    | news:com...
    || Does anyone have a positive or negative experience with either of these
    | air
    || inake system?. In particular on a '99 TJ.
    ||
    ||
    |
    |



  4. #4
    Ed
    Guest

    Re: K&N vs Airaid

    "Pablo" <net> wrote:
     

    I've heard the arguments that Harry makes and can't dispute them with
    hard data, but I can tell you my experience. I've got a 97 TJ, 4.0,
    5-spd. I put a K&N cone filter on with a Rusty's airtube. I also have
    a full Borla exhaust system, which was on before the filter.
    The noticeable improvement I saw is in low-end throttle response. That
    is, the engine responds better as you start to give it gas. Especially
    true starting out from a stop.
    The downsides to a K&N or Airaid is you need to be very careful about
    water if you offroad at all. The Airaid seems to put the filter at
    about the same height as the OE intake, my setup puts the filter a
    *little* bit higher. I try to avoid deep water anyway, but it's
    something you need to keep in mind.
    -Ed


 

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