Jeep: Jeep Liberty Transmission

This is not normal. Not knowing the year of your vehicle, I can't give you
specifics, but there IS a TSB (Technical Service Bulliten) for the problem
you are describing, covering the 2003 model year. It involves reflashing
the tranny's ROM, and then wiping the active memory to kick off a new
learning cycle.


<net> wrote in message
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net (CZ*10) wrote: 
Thanks for the response. ...It is a 2003 Liberty (limited Edition), I
have. ...They apparently did what you describe, at my last service (a
week ago), but I have noticed no difference. ....Jon

Jon, I read your review of your Liberty on the web site you provided, from
an earlier post. You said you have part time 4X4 and you were using it on
dry payment. You said it sounded like it was going to come apart. You also
said that it would not turn (the wheels) on corners, just skid around. Do
you know you can not use part time 4X4 on dry payment? Maybe you have
damaged the driveline. This is very damaging to the vehicle.

Just a thought.

Andy
2001 TJ

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Johnny - this problem and the one you asked about back on 2/26/2005 (where
you left the dealer and it downshifted and chirped) seem similar. It might
be the same thing. What has happened between now and then? If this is the
same thing, you may be adding up to possibly building a case under the lemon
laws.

I am not sure how running on dry pavement in part time 4WD might be
affecting this (I have a manual TJ), but NEVER run it in part time on dry or
only wet pavement. It is all locked together with nothing slipping (as
evidenced by the skidding and groaning - it was pleading with you), so doing
this puts stress on the whole drivetrain as it tries to outlive the stresses
that are introduced which only wheel slippage on the ground can alleviate.
There might be a 'weak link' in the transmission that got stressed by this
behavior.

Also - if you have not done so yet, you might find more and better responses
in you post another iteration of this in the much more populated
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys NG.

Andy - where did you see this link? I do not see it in that previous
post...
Curious Tomes

"Andy" <com> wrote in message
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com (Andy) wrote: 
I used the part time 4X4 once. ...And I'm sure it ain't gonna hurt it
when you back up on drive pavement doing 1/2 mile an hour and then turn.
...If this can damage the vehcle, there'd be a lot more warnings -- and
even imprinted right on the dash. ...No, the problem started when the
service dept. forgot to reset the computer (or whatever), after
servicing the transmission. ...The resulting dramatic lockup, as a
result, took place when the vehicle was going 50 mph. ...The symptons
I experience now are identicle, but not so dramatic. ...Jon

Here it is Tomes. In a part time 4X4 system it won't take long to have
problems on dry pavement. Jon said he didn't drive far in Part Time.
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If you want further info on the Libertys, check out
www.carsurvey.org ...I'm listed on there with the 2003 "limited
Edition" Liberty Titled: (Lots of bells and whistles, but overall a
lemon.) ...I bought a white jeep, but I should have opted for a yellow
one. ...Jon
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"Tomes" <net> wrote in message
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SNIP 

 

The vehicle works very awkwardly in "part time 4 wheel drive"...If one goes
to back up and turn, the drive train tightens up (like the brakes are being
applied)..I heard a "clunk" from the rear, one time. Seems like something is
going to break. Also, when turning, the wheels skid on the ground like the
differential is locked.

"Andy" <com> wrote in message
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.... and the reason for this is that all of the wheels are traveling locked
together, so when the outside wheel when turned needs to travel further, it
needs to skip and feels awkward in full turn - that is normal. If you did
it just for a short bit you are likely OK for that, nap. While there are no
warning labels, it does detail this in the owners manual I believe.

Your problem needs to be fixed by the dealer under the 7/70,000 warranty.
Tomes
(and thx Andy...)