Ferrari: i or QV

Sharknose wrote: 
If you must have an injected car, the QV is the choice. The i is a pig.
The build quality is a little better on the QVs as well. The i also
is a poster child for "deferred maintenance" as it's the cheapest of the
bunch (if you're not counting the GT4s). If you really want to have fun
(and great sounds) go for a carb car. The injected cars just don't cut
it for me (Sorry Paul!).

Also, and I used to tell this to all of my customers, plan on spending
at least 20% of the purchase price in the first year to make whatever
you buy "right". I bought my car in 1995 and I've spent almost 75% of
the original purchase price on "making it right and keeping it right"
over the last ten years! I drove it today and it's twice the car today
than it was when i first got it.

T308
--
LIVERPOOL FC - European Champions 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 2005

"Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek)" <com> wrote in
message news:eBrse.14933$..
 


Thanks T308. Great to see you're a fellow Reds fan! Think we'll take the
Champions League again next year?!

What are the differences between the carb and injection cars from a
performance and maintenance point of view?

SN

"Sharknose" <com> wrote
 

I'd guess that the injection cars are easier to maintain, but what do I
know?

As for performance, don't you believe these bleary-eyed nostalgic Swedes
who tell you carbs are better. For overtaking and out-of-the-corner
acceleration you want a nice torque spread - that's what the quattrovalvole
gives you. It also makes for a less unpleasant time if you have the
misfortune to get stuck in stop-start traffic (which of course, never
happens
in the UK).

....and less of this 'blown away by a Honda' rot. You wait till you get
driving
a 308 and tell me its performance is outdated (yes, yes, yes, I know
compared
to a modern car that costs the same as house, it is - but on the road,
amongst
most of the euroshoppers - tweaked or not - she's still awesome...
And if there are any heretics out there, I once read a column in UK
boy-racer's
favourite magazine Max Power [it was in a barbers, FFS!, I didn't actually
buy it!] where they did a 'what would you take, a super-duper
euroshopper/jap
mobile with a big exhaust, or a 308?' article. Their summary was that the
acceleration was about the same, but that the Furry a) handled better and
b) is a Ferrari. Guess which one they chose :-)

Anyway, back to the point - never mind the carb/qv debate, both are
great cars. Just don't buy the 'i'. I tried one - they are noticeably
slower,
they feel 'heavy' and you have that 'not quite the right one' feeling to
contend
with.

Sharky, you sound like a man who's finances are not dissimilar to my own -
in other words this is going to be quite an investment for you. Could you
really
put in all that money and take all 'the fear' that owning a Ferrari brings
(to those of us without mansions) and think; 'I wish I'd bought a carb/qv'
?

BTW, I like 412s as well. Saw a nice blue one in Paris the other year...
quintessentially Italian...

....And of course the great Funkraum owns one (where he?).

Why not commit financial suicide and buy one of those?



-Paul

 

.....and what exactlly were you doing in barber's shop Mr "Burns". This must
have been quite some time ago methinks!

I.

"Iain Miller" <me> wrote
 

Blimey! It must be 'Have a poke at Paul' week in the Miller house.

For your information, when one has less hair, one has to go more often.

....to the barber's, that is*. I didn't mean to imply anything incontinent.

Anyway £9.50 (plus tip) at the 'Gent's barber's' compares very well
to Gretchen's £100+ sessions.

-MCPD

*whenever I qualify anything with a 'that is', I always think of the
Beverly Hillbillies...

"And up through the ground came a bubblin crude. Oil that is, black gold,
texas tea "
Sorry to bring that up again.

Paul Duffin wrote:
 

I somehow remember several years ago that I adapted that ditty for
something in this group (probably a slam). Not wanting to bring it to
the surface - I fear my old posts.

What the hell is Jackie Stewart eating??

Beautiful day in Northern AZ today - sunny, hot, but with a cool breeze!

M

--
It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the years
And ride the whims of your mind
Commanding in another world
Suddenly, you hear and see
This magic new dimension

Sharknose wrote: 

One can hope, but I don't think we'll be able to sneak up on people
next year like we did this year. We were underdogs against Lever,
Juve, Chelski and AC Milan and we made it by each of them. As much as
I love the side, I cannot believe that they'll repeat that kind of run.
I'll take top three in the EPL, a domestic trophy and a trip to the
final 16 in the Champions League. I'm also very worried about the
fixture list. We just don't have enough depth to compete in all the
competitions ahead of us.
 
The carbs take more care and attention, but if you rebuild them after
you buy and have them properly set up they'll serve you well.

Carb 250bhp (fibreglass cars 255bph), the i 214bph, QV 240bhp. The QV
is about 100kg lighter than the carb cars (though 150kg heavier than
the early fibreglass cars)


FORZA REDS (Both of them!)

T308

Paul Duffin wrote: 

Assuming that you can complete a shift and not run into the F40 in
front of you....

T308