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Magellan GPS: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

  1. #1
    Savers
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    how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    I have some land in SW Oklahoma and would like to know if there is a way I
    can enter the legal land description (township map type description) and
    obtain the coordinates which can be used with GPS in order to locate the
    corners of the property? Is there a website which allows this? Is this a
    function of the GPS unit? Thanks for any info.



  2. #2
    Ron
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    Savers by Ceg wrote: 
    I doubt that the actual coordinates are recorded in land description
    documents, but rather relative coordinated from a fixed point. The easy
    way would be to go there and walk the property, recording the
    coordinates at each corner, and draw yourself a map of the property. If
    the area is fenced, this should be fairly easy, if not, then locating
    the surveyors stakes might be quite a challenge.

  3. #3
    Savers
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    "Ron Hunter" <net> wrote in message
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    Is it possible for me to go to the tax office or some other office and get
    the coordinates from their section maps? Or do I have to hire a surveyor?




  4. #4
    Jack
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    Savers by Ceg wrote:
    <snip> 

    Hiring a surveyor can get you an opinion as much as easily seen and
    agreed upon property lines. If you do that, make sure the surveyor
    understands what you expect to receive and agrees to deliver that.

    The starting point for the area the property is in is usually defined by
    a system called Township/Range/Section or the Public Land Survey (PLS)
    system. Here is a place that may help you understand that system:

    http://www.igage.com/PLSTool.htm

    You can look at the collar info on a USGS paper topo map to determine
    the Township and Range. The same info can be found on the free USGS
    downloads if the collars have not been trimmed off.

    Reading the description for one specific property can be a little arcane
    but its works okay. For example, if you have a more or less square or
    rectangular property, or adjoined squares and rectangles, all with
    straight lines, and there are two or more clearly defined reference
    points (pins, markers, etc., sometimes called monuments) you have a good
    starting point. Once the all distance measurements are right, the
    property lines are right.

    You can set a GPS in one place and let it average the location for days
    and it will still have an error of 10 or 20 feet or more. So if you
    start projecting lines from that point, that error can quickly be
    compounded.

    Are there monuments on the corners of the property? And is there line
    of sight from corner to corner? If there is and I wanted to place
    markers or a fence, I'd buy an inexpensive transit and use that to place
    marks along the lines. Not having line of sight from one marker to the
    next is where it starts getting complicated.

    Jack

    --
    Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
    (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

  5. #5
    Pieter
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    My neighbor just did a survey of his property, and one common corner (with
    my property) has a monument at the corner. Since we both agree on that, I
    asked and received a copy of his survey, The coordinates of that monument
    are given in coordinates based on the NY State Plane system. After some
    calculator use, these have been transformed into Lat, Long and UTM for use
    with my GPSs. His survey also gives the angles of property lines (thank
    goodness they are long straight lines) to other points, so posting the line
    should be relatively easy. I think a RETAIL GPS can be of use in follwoing
    a known property line. However, I would not depend on one, given the error
    budget, to lay a propert line out in the first place.

    "Jack Erbes" <net> wrote in message
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  6. #6
    Ron
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    Savers by Ceg wrote: 
    That should be possible, but I don't know how the maps will relate to
    normal latitude and longitude points, or if they have their own form of
    notation.

  7. #7
    Savers
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    "Ron Hunter" <net> wrote in message
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    I may be going about this the wrong way. What I have is the land
    description...section, range, etc. with all the 1/4's this and that...I'm
    trying to figure out if there is a way I can get obtain the corners of the
    property so I can mark it out myself or if I need to hire someone to do
    that. If it's a case of hiring someone, I'm not really sure who or what
    department I'd need to contact.



  8. #8
    Frank
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:59:22 -0600, "Savers by Ceg"
    <sytes.net> wrote:
     

    Yellow Pages. Surveyors.

  9. #9
    Ron
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    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    Savers by Ceg wrote: 
    Look in the phone book under 'surveyors'. Don't expect a lot of
    listings if the town in rural....

  10. #10
    Savers
    Guest

    Re: how to obtain GPS coordinates?

    "Ron Hunter" <net> wrote in message
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    The property is in a small area called Buzzard Gap...about 5 miles out of
    Wilburton, OK. It's a little spithole in the middle of nowhere. If you're
    familiar with Robber's Cave Park, the property is about 10 miles south of
    there.




 

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