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  1. #1
    Mike
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    Hot Running 900 T16 - blocked radiator?

    Hi,

    Got a problem with my 1987 T16. I've just driven 500 miles up and down the
    country over the last couple of days. When I'm in town traffic, the
    temperature gauge stays dead in the centre and the fan comes in as it
    should. However, when I get up to speeds around 85-90mph on the motorway,
    the temperature slowly climbs - it never quite gets to the red, but the car
    does get hot. If I turn the heater on full heat, the temperature will drop
    pretty quickly back to normal and stay there, no matter how hard I drive the
    car. If I turn the heater knob back to "halfway", the temperature will start
    climbing again. Turn it back up to max again, temp falls to normal.

    This behaviour only even happens on the motorway at high speed - around town
    the car is perfect. No steam/smoke, no loss of power.

    So, could this be a blocked radiator - same symptoms as my Capri 2.8 when
    the rad was silted up on that. Not sure if the C900 suffers from that
    problem as much though. Or is it the head gasket? Or did I not bleed it
    correctly when I flushed the cooling system a month or so back?

    Car DOES use some coolant - around a litre a month. It doesn't appear to be
    contaminating the oil, and there's no oil in the coolant. Water pump is a
    bit squeaky and it sometimes looks as though it might be leaking from
    beneath. I'll change the pump when I get back from holidays in a month..
    Could this be also causing my hot running? Or is that more likely to be a
    blocked rad?

    Help!!

    Cheers
    Mike




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    Grunff
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    Re: Hot Running 900 T16 - blocked radiator?

    Mike P wrote:
     

    Could be, but that is quite unlikely.

     

    Could be.

     

    Could be.

    Add to that list possible lean mixture or incorrect timing.

     

    That's a lot.

     

    You need to find out where that litre is going. Could be
    dripping out somewhere, in which case it's not related to the
    overheating. Or it could be being burnt, which would be causing
    the overheating.

    Blocked rad is possible but unusual.

    --
    Grunff


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    Re: Hot Running 900 T16 - blocked radiator?


    "Mike P" <com> wrote in message
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    I'd find that leak mate, patch that up. Refill and bleed the system again
    then see how it is. I've replaced some pretty nasty rads in 900's and never
    had a problem with a silted up one. Doesn't mean you couldn't just that its
    pretty rare.

    Its could be a headgasket fail, first signs are normaly a slight
    overpressure of the coolant system leading to it spitting water out of the
    pump. Dangle a sniffer into the header tank and see if it comes up with
    anything.

    Matt



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    Tom
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    "Mike P" <com> wrote in message
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    A classic example of a tired radiator, more horsepower = more heat, putting
    on the heater brings down the temp thus helping out the rad. If you have the
    copper radiator, look at the fins and you will probably find that they have
    turned to dust. Ovbiously the water loss may be a seperate issue, but change
    the rad first. I have done lots of rads to cure motorway overheating abd it
    worked every time. Make sure the rad is for a t16 as they are cored thicker
    than the others, HTH, Tom. 



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    Mike
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    Thanks for all your advice chaps!

    I'll get hold of a s/h rad from the local SAAB specialist and fit it at the
    weekend. Won't cost a lot
    and then I'll see where we go from there. I was pissed off yesterday, and
    was going to sell it but I drove it again
    today and it's just too much fun :-)

    Mike



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    bjmpls
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    Re: Hot Running 900 T16 - blocked radiator?

    "Mike P" <com> wrote in message news:<brht9k$26che$news.uni-berlin.de>... 

    Hi Mike

    Your problem is probably due to the sasklar thermostat linkage. You
    can spot it as a small, purple knob underneath the right hand side
    (remember: you are the car, as far as orientation is concerned)
    radiator shim. You can twist the knob off with a set of Vicegrips,
    and then substitute a wad of bondo or evern chewing gum (pick your
    poison). A replacement from the dealer costs about $1235.

    Aren't Saabs quirky? They are great when everything works, but most
    things (things that normally don't go wrong in another make of car)
    start failing after about 80K miles, and the costs start tearing a
    hole in your kids' college funds or your retirement plan.

    For example, the speedo in my '96 9000 quit one month after the
    warranty expired. The problem was a broken plastic impeller that cost
    $5.39. However, the impelller replacement required PULLING THE
    ENGINE, at a labor cost of over $500.

    When you have finally had enough, try this simple cure:

    1. Go to Walmart and buy a 30 lb sledgehammer.
    2. Go to your favorite liquor or grocery store and buy a six-pack of
    tall boys.
    3. Go home and set up a small table near your Saab; put the chilled
    tall boys on the table.
    4. Starting from the front of the car, bash repeatedly with the sledge
    hammer until the car is nothing more than a pile of scarp.
    5. Make sure you pace yourself and pause for another tall boy as you
    demolish, for all time, the wallet-eating car par excellence.

    Hope this helps.

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    Mike
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    Re: Hot Running 900 T16 - blocked radiator?



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    Knackered radiator. The damn thing is leaking. Fortunately today it was dry
    enough for me to spot it dripping on the floor and traced it back to the
    rad.
    I've ordered a new rad from PFS as I'm pretty sure it's that. Will also
    replace the 'stat at the same time.

    Cheers for all the advice

    Mke



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    The
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    com (bjmpls) writes:
     

    This is a bit like my C900. The speedo works perfectly, but the odometer has
    a problem where if there isn't enough inertia in the gearing inside the
    gauge, when the tenth of a kilometre dial hits zero it cogs and stops
    rotating. 8-)

    End result being that until the next time the car drives over a bump with
    enough acceleration being provided by the engine, the odometer stops
    clocking over.

    I'm going to pull the instruments out soon when I get a replacement set and
    see exactly what's broken but I'm sure it's just one tooth on a small
    plastic gear, going by my observations of the fault.

    Hardly expensive, but it means the car will fail it's next rego inspection
    which is due in May next year.

    Craig.
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    Grunff
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    Re: Hot Running 900 T16 - blocked radiator?

    The One4Sun - GWS wrote:
     

    It's acxtually a totally different problem - the 9k has an
    electronic speedo, but your C900 has a mechanical one.

    Your problem is caused by a split in a small white nylon gear in
    the odometer. Whatever you do, don't try to repair it. It will
    work initially, but not for long. Just replace the gear.

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    Grunff



 

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