Saab: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
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Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
I have '99 9-3 and I have a problem with interior lightning. When dome
light switch is in 'door' position, dome lights work as designed.
However, dome lights do not work at all in 'on' position of switch. In
addition, map/reading lights do not work, not at front nor at rear,
and problem expands also to make-up lights on sunvisors on both sides.
I have tracked the problem down to wiring in roof: it seems that there
is a blue-green wire that should provide constant +12V, which it does
not do. This same color coded wire serves all lights mentioned above
and very well explains problems I'm struggling with. Dome light switch
works all right.
Now my problem is that I was not able to track where this blue-green
wire comes from. I checked back of fuse box, and wire that starts from
there is orange, and cannot be a cause for problems anyway because
door position works.
Do you have access to wiring diagram, and could you check where this
bloody blue-green wire starts from? Could you also check where orange
wire behind the fuse box turns into blue-green? Which way wires travel
to roof? I assume they go inside drivers side A-pillar, is that right?
Do they travel inside the pillar or between pillar and cloth that
covers it? If I tear down interior parts on A-pillar, will I be able
to see the wiring?
Help!
Best Regards,
Juha
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Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
On 24 Jan 2004 20:17:17 -0800, com (Juha) wrote:
Here's the info I have. It may only relate to UK cars though.
The +12V supply for the roof lighting goes down to a connector in the
boot behind the left back wheel. From there is goes forward to another
connector below the left A-pillar. Then it goes to the DICE module
(pin 70) above the pedals. It stays blue/green all the way to that
point. The power for it comes from fuse 4 via a blue/red wire into pin
24 of the DICE module.
Here's hoping it isn't a problem with the DICE module...
Cheers,
Colin.
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Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
Colin Stamp <plus.com> wrote in message news:<com>...
Thanks! Just to make sure I got it right: it does NOT travel
inside/via A-pillar at all, but from roof it goes to trunk/boot, and
then to front of the car on left hand side of the car, where it
connects to DICE. Is that right? OK, I keep on hunting.
BTW; what is DICE? Something that is known to be a problem and
expensive to fix? How do I check if it is OK?
Best Regards,
Juha
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Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
On 25 Jan 2004 12:53:39 -0800, com (Juha) wrote:
Yep, as far as I can tell, that's how it is.
It's a control box that seems to handle loads of little timing and
power control functions for all sorts of things like indicator
flashing, intermittent wipe, fog lights and, of course, the various
interior light delays. I've no idea how much it costs but I bet it
isn't cheap. There's no reason why it should be broken - it's just the
worst-case scenario.
I suppose the simplest test would be to check for +12V on pin 70 and
pin 24. If it's there on pin 24 but not on pin 70, then the DICE unit
has that output turned off for some reason. A Saab dealer should be
able to read the fault codes to see what the DICE unit thinks is wrong
- maybe just a short to ground on the blue/green wire or something.
Colin.
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Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
"Colin Stamp" <plus.com> wrote in message
news:com...
OK, I will do that. I suppose this DICE is pretty easy to locate? I checked
the wiring in trunk for this stuff, and yes, it seems that blue-green wire
has the same 0.4V in trunk, which I measured at roof dome. So, it must be
grounded somewhere between trunk and DICE, or DICE itself. I checked the
pins you suggested. However, I'm not sure If I'm ready to invest on new DICE
even if it is broken, because everything else it controls seems to work.
But, yes, I will do the measurements you suggested, and If it seems to be
DICE, I will take it to dealer for fault code read-out.
BR:Z
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Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?
"Colin Stamp" <plus.com> wrote in message
news:com...
OK, I will do that. I suppose this DICE is pretty easy to locate? I checked
the wiring in trunk for this stuff, and yes, it seems that blue-green wire
has the same 0.4V in trunk, which I measured at roof dome. So, it must be
grounded somewhere between trunk and DICE, or DICE itself. I checked the
pins you suggested. However, I'm not sure If I'm ready to invest on new DICE
even if it is broken, because everything else it controls seems to work.
But, yes, I will do the measurements you suggested, and If it seems to be
DICE, I will take it to dealer for fault code read-out.
BR:Z
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