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Saab: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?

  1. #1
    Juha
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    Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?

    I have '99 9-3 and I have a problem with interior lightning. When dome
    light switch is in 'door' position, dome lights work as designed.
    However, dome lights do not work at all in 'on' position of switch. In
    addition, map/reading lights do not work, not at front nor at rear,
    and problem expands also to make-up lights on sunvisors on both sides.

    I have tracked the problem down to wiring in roof: it seems that there
    is a blue-green wire that should provide constant +12V, which it does
    not do. This same color coded wire serves all lights mentioned above
    and very well explains problems I'm struggling with. Dome light switch
    works all right.

    Now my problem is that I was not able to track where this blue-green
    wire comes from. I checked back of fuse box, and wire that starts from
    there is orange, and cannot be a cause for problems anyway because
    door position works.

    Do you have access to wiring diagram, and could you check where this
    bloody blue-green wire starts from? Could you also check where orange
    wire behind the fuse box turns into blue-green? Which way wires travel
    to roof? I assume they go inside drivers side A-pillar, is that right?
    Do they travel inside the pillar or between pillar and cloth that
    covers it? If I tear down interior parts on A-pillar, will I be able
    to see the wiring?

    Help!

    Best Regards,
    Juha

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    Colin
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    Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?

    On 24 Jan 2004 20:17:17 -0800, com (Juha) wrote:
     

    Here's the info I have. It may only relate to UK cars though.

    The +12V supply for the roof lighting goes down to a connector in the
    boot behind the left back wheel. From there is goes forward to another
    connector below the left A-pillar. Then it goes to the DICE module
    (pin 70) above the pedals. It stays blue/green all the way to that
    point. The power for it comes from fuse 4 via a blue/red wire into pin
    24 of the DICE module.

    Here's hoping it isn't a problem with the DICE module...

    Cheers,

    Colin.

  3. #3
    Juha
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    Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?

    Colin Stamp <plus.com> wrote in message news:<com>... 
    Thanks! Just to make sure I got it right: it does NOT travel
    inside/via A-pillar at all, but from roof it goes to trunk/boot, and
    then to front of the car on left hand side of the car, where it
    connects to DICE. Is that right? OK, I keep on hunting.

    BTW; what is DICE? Something that is known to be a problem and
    expensive to fix? How do I check if it is OK?

    Best Regards,
    Juha

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    Colin
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    Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?

    On 25 Jan 2004 12:53:39 -0800, com (Juha) wrote:
     

    Yep, as far as I can tell, that's how it is.
     

    It's a control box that seems to handle loads of little timing and
    power control functions for all sorts of things like indicator
    flashing, intermittent wipe, fog lights and, of course, the various
    interior light delays. I've no idea how much it costs but I bet it
    isn't cheap. There's no reason why it should be broken - it's just the
    worst-case scenario.

    I suppose the simplest test would be to check for +12V on pin 70 and
    pin 24. If it's there on pin 24 but not on pin 70, then the DICE unit
    has that output turned off for some reason. A Saab dealer should be
    able to read the fault codes to see what the DICE unit thinks is wrong
    - maybe just a short to ground on the blue/green wire or something.

    Colin.

  5. #5
    Zon
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    Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?


    "Colin Stamp" <plus.com> wrote in message
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    OK, I will do that. I suppose this DICE is pretty easy to locate? I checked
    the wiring in trunk for this stuff, and yes, it seems that blue-green wire
    has the same 0.4V in trunk, which I measured at roof dome. So, it must be
    grounded somewhere between trunk and DICE, or DICE itself. I checked the
    pins you suggested. However, I'm not sure If I'm ready to invest on new DICE
    even if it is broken, because everything else it controls seems to work.

    But, yes, I will do the measurements you suggested, and If it seems to be
    DICE, I will take it to dealer for fault code read-out.

    BR:Z



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    Juha
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    Re: Help! Interior lightning problem: anyone have access to wiring diagrams?


    "Colin Stamp" <plus.com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    OK, I will do that. I suppose this DICE is pretty easy to locate? I checked
    the wiring in trunk for this stuff, and yes, it seems that blue-green wire
    has the same 0.4V in trunk, which I measured at roof dome. So, it must be
    grounded somewhere between trunk and DICE, or DICE itself. I checked the
    pins you suggested. However, I'm not sure If I'm ready to invest on new DICE
    even if it is broken, because everything else it controls seems to work.

    But, yes, I will do the measurements you suggested, and If it seems to be
    DICE, I will take it to dealer for fault code read-out.

    BR:Z




 

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