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    ben
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    HELP 1994 Nissan Altima Won't Start...continued

    Well I have finaaly gotten around to checking all of the things listed
    below and the car still won;t start. I have spark and fuel, but zero
    compression.....any thoughts? Is there more than one chain? Is it
    possible that one broke and the other is still turning thus I get
    spark? Is it time for the junk yard? I'd hate to have to go to that,
    summer is here and I need to be able to get out of town. Please
    help!!!












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    I really need some help here and I hope someone can be gracious enough
    to offer me some assitance.


    I started my car and about 2 minutes later before I drove off, I had a
    very dimly lit charge light come on. I figured maybe I was having a
    charging problem and that I should be able to get home like that. As I



    was driving on the high way it seemed to get a little bit brighter,
    then it did get quite bright and it died. After towooing it home I did



    notice that my coolant and oil were low. BIG MISTAKE, I know! So now
    when I try to start it the starter engages and just sort of whines,
    sounds to be attempting to start but not actually turning over. Please



    help, any thoughts or advice? Thank you in advance.


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    RemcoW Jul 27, 10:35 pm show options


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    "ben" <com> wrote in message


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    So was the battery dead? In other words, was the charge light indeed
    related
    to the battery not charging?

    What exactly do you mean by "the starter whines"? Is the starter
    turning the
    car over in the sense that you see the belts move, etc? If an engine is



    seized and the starter is good, it will not turn over at all - the
    starter
    may, in attempting to start the car, burn out. Or is the starter just
    spinning very quickly?
    If the car is indeed turning over (you see the belts move, but the car
    is
    not starting), check to see if you have spark.
    If you don't have spark, pull the distributor cap off and see if you
    see the
    thing in the middle (called the "rotor") spin. If you don't see if
    spin, you
    may have a broken timing chain (or belt - not sure what a 94 altima
    has).
    If you do see it spin, you may have a broken coil or ignitor (I think
    Nissan
    calls an ignitor something else, but it basically just makes/breaks a
    contact, controlling the voltage to the coil - what used to be referred

    to
    as "points". The modern designs are electronic). There are ways of
    telling
    if one is bad so just tell us what you see.


    Driving without oil or coolant is a very bad thing - you could have
    done a
    lot of damage (like seizing the engine). Can you turn the crank pulley
    by
    hand or maybe with a wrench? If you can, your engine is not seized.
    Because
    it overheated, it could still be that the head is warped or your
    headgasget
    may have blown. Let's hope this is not the case.


    Report back with your findings -- hopefully it is something simple and
    cheap.
    Remco


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    Thanks Remco, I appreciate it, I will be checking the things you
    mentioned later this afternoon.


    Battery was not dead. Starter whines, well it appears to engage and
    attempt to start the motor but the motor will not turn over. Amybe a
    little quick. Will have to check the belts for movement this
    afternoon. Aslo, the timing chain had been rattling of sorts for the
    last 6 months, i was told that it was just one of the guides and that
    it should be fine, with this new development I am starting to suspect
    as you mentioned, the timing chain. Fingers crossed.


    Again thank you for your help and insights.


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    Hi Remco,


    Sorry to respond so late, I had to leave on vacation and was unable to
    do any checking of my car. The belts driving the alternator do in fact



    turn. That is about as far as I have gotten and will begin to check
    for spark and pull the cap. What specifically should I be looking for
    with the cap etc. Should I attempt to start while the cap is off and
    check for it spinning? Tahnk you in advance.


    ben


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    I responded earlier to your original reply. Are you getting spark?


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    ben
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    HELP 1994 Nissan Altima Won't Start...continued

    Well I have finaaly gotten around to checking all of the things listed
    below and the car still won;t start. I have spark and fuel, but zero
    compression.....any thoughts? Is there more than one chain? Is it
    possible that one broke and the other is still turning thus I get
    spark? Is it time for the junk yard? I'd hate to have to go to that,
    summer is here and I need to be able to get out of town. Please
    help!!!












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    From: "ben" <com> - Find messages by this author
    Date: 27 Jul 2005 13:19:39 -0700
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    I really need some help here and I hope someone can be gracious enough
    to offer me some assitance.


    I started my car and about 2 minutes later before I drove off, I had a
    very dimly lit charge light come on. I figured maybe I was having a
    charging problem and that I should be able to get home like that. As I



    was driving on the high way it seemed to get a little bit brighter,
    then it did get quite bright and it died. After towooing it home I did



    notice that my coolant and oil were low. BIG MISTAKE, I know! So now
    when I try to start it the starter engages and just sort of whines,
    sounds to be attempting to start but not actually turning over. Please



    help, any thoughts or advice? Thank you in advance.


    Reply


    RemcoW Jul 27, 10:35 pm show options


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    "ben" <com> wrote in message


    news:googlegroups.com...

     


    So was the battery dead? In other words, was the charge light indeed
    related
    to the battery not charging?

    What exactly do you mean by "the starter whines"? Is the starter
    turning the
    car over in the sense that you see the belts move, etc? If an engine is



    seized and the starter is good, it will not turn over at all - the
    starter
    may, in attempting to start the car, burn out. Or is the starter just
    spinning very quickly?
    If the car is indeed turning over (you see the belts move, but the car
    is
    not starting), check to see if you have spark.
    If you don't have spark, pull the distributor cap off and see if you
    see the
    thing in the middle (called the "rotor") spin. If you don't see if
    spin, you
    may have a broken timing chain (or belt - not sure what a 94 altima
    has).
    If you do see it spin, you may have a broken coil or ignitor (I think
    Nissan
    calls an ignitor something else, but it basically just makes/breaks a
    contact, controlling the voltage to the coil - what used to be referred

    to
    as "points". The modern designs are electronic). There are ways of
    telling
    if one is bad so just tell us what you see.


    Driving without oil or coolant is a very bad thing - you could have
    done a
    lot of damage (like seizing the engine). Can you turn the crank pulley
    by
    hand or maybe with a wrench? If you can, your engine is not seized.
    Because
    it overheated, it could still be that the head is warped or your
    headgasget
    may have blown. Let's hope this is not the case.


    Report back with your findings -- hopefully it is something simple and
    cheap.
    Remco


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    ben Jul 28, 12:55 pm hide options


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    Thanks Remco, I appreciate it, I will be checking the things you
    mentioned later this afternoon.


    Battery was not dead. Starter whines, well it appears to engage and
    attempt to start the motor but the motor will not turn over. Amybe a
    little quick. Will have to check the belts for movement this
    afternoon. Aslo, the timing chain had been rattling of sorts for the
    last 6 months, i was told that it was just one of the guides and that
    it should be fine, with this new development I am starting to suspect
    as you mentioned, the timing chain. Fingers crossed.


    Again thank you for your help and insights.


    Reply


    ben Aug 15, 11:05 am show options


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    Hi Remco,


    Sorry to respond so late, I had to leave on vacation and was unable to
    do any checking of my car. The belts driving the alternator do in fact



    turn. That is about as far as I have gotten and will begin to check
    for spark and pull the cap. What specifically should I be looking for
    with the cap etc. Should I attempt to start while the cap is off and
    check for it spinning? Tahnk you in advance.


    ben


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    I responded earlier to your original reply. Are you getting spark?


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    johnin
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    Re: HELP 1994 Nissan Altima Won't Start...continued


    If you can hear your car turning over and has goo
    -spar
    -fue
    -ai

    then open up the air filter housing & get yourself some
    "STARTING FLUID" and spray a small amount into the hole leading u
    to the intake manifold while you have someone crank over the engine

    --
    johnin

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