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Ferrari: Is this group dead?

  1. #1
    Nick
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    Is this group dead?

    No new messages for a couple days....


    -Bob
    --
    FERRARI - 14 Time World Champions

    SCHUMACHER - 7 Time World Champion

    FORZA FERRARI!!!

  2. #2
    Iain
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    Re: Is this group dead?


    "Nick Beef" <net> wrote in message
    news:comcast.giganews.com... 

    We've been out playing in our 'rraris ;-)

    I.



  3. #3
    Tifosi
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    Re: Is this group dead?

    Iain Miller wrote: 
    Yes, and watching in shock and awe as Renault grinds us into dust....

    T308

  4. #4
    ar50troll@gmail.com
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    Re: Is this group dead?


    Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) wrote: 

    Yes, b ut remember this is the 2004 spec car and ferrari, the top
    marque is forced to cope with these inferior rules changes. How can F1
    call themselves the top racing class when competitors cannot change
    their wheels and butyl rubber casings(not getting into the tire/tyre
    debate here :-). These are the same fans who call NASCAR hick racing.
    It's "Hick" racing not to be able to change wheel and butyl rubber
    casings and engines every race. F1 has taken a huge step back towards
    the stone age. Your asking Ferrari to behave like racing cavemen. The
    new rules package was designed to favor teams other than Ferrari. But
    the season has barely started and the F2005 has not ran yet. So let's
    have this discussion at the end of the season when Maranello takes home
    another championship...
    And yes, we are busy driving our cars. I went to the South by
    Southwest Music Fest in Austin and the weather was remarkable. I did
    catch some rain:-( It was the first time to drive my 512 in the rain.
    And I only broke traction a few times :-)


  5. #5
    Iain
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    Re: Is this group dead?

    > Yes, b ut remember this is the 2004 spec car and ferrari, the top 

    Same rules for everyone.
     

    There shouldn't be one - should be a single tyre manufacturer
     

    Not sure how the current rules disadvantage Ferrari - they have the same
    opportunities everone else does.
     

    The F2005 is reported to be only 0.5 - 1s a lap quicker than the 2004M.
    That's not enough to create parity with Renault (or Toyota).

    Actually, the car is not the problem - its Bridgestone. Maybe they will do
    better when they get to Europe & the temps are not so high but I'd expect
    them to have their backsides handed to them again in Bahrain whichever car
    they run. Ferrari are reaping the effects of driving all the other teams
    away from Bridgestone - t'was a bit shortsighted because now there's nobody
    else of any consequence left to help develop the tyres.
     

    Try a set of Michelins ;-)

    I.



  6. #6
    F2004:
    Guest

    Re: Is this group dead?

    On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:27:58 -0600, Nick Beef
    <net> wrote: 

    ....What comes after interred?

  7. #7
    Nick
    Guest

    Re: Is this group dead?

    In article <com>,
    com says... 

    JV's career?


    -Bob



  8. #8
    F2004:
    Guest

    Re: Is this group dead?

    On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:45:08 -0600, Nick Beef
    <net> wrote: 

    Try this:

    http://www.tomyang.net/cars/startup.mp3

    From a really great webpage: www.tomyang.net


  9. #9
    Iain
    Guest

    Re: Is this group dead?

     

    On this I'll agree with you....I spent two evenings reading the entire
    account of the restoration last week - fascinating.

    I.



  10. #10
    Tifosi
    Guest

    Re: Is this group dead?

    Iain Miller wrote:
     


    Yes, but the strategy of "waiting until everything is perfect" with the
    F2005 clearly has failed this time. In years with marginal changes to
    the rule book, Ferrari could get away with it, and benefit from it, but
    this year there was just too much change. Bridgestone's work has been
    focused on the F5 and just wasn't going to work in a place like
    Malaysia. Also, the lack of solid hot weather experience may hurt later
    in the year in Germany and Hungary if it heats up there (which i hope it
    doesn't since i'm going to those races!).
     
    Yes, but those pesky European Union "anti-competition rules" get in the
    way. Bridgestone and Michelin should both go and they should bring back
    those POS Goodyears from 1999. Those were really bad tyres! 
    The rules accomplished something, they put Ferrari on the back foot, but
    they certainly reduced the show. I don't even go on Friday's anymore.
    Everything they've done has hurt the on-track spectator and reduced the
    show for the Television viewer as well. Remember when Qualifying used
    to be interesting? We'll never see this again (at least not for a while..)

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/panton/AS9041.avi
     

    I hope you're right, but this one's going to come down to the end I
    believe. The current points structure doesn't favor comebacks, they
    favor the long grind.
     
    Tyres will be EVERYTHING this year. Some will be flattered by them on
    some circuits and nowhere on others (Witness Toyota falling back through
    the pack in OZ yet running with the best in Sepang).
     
    I just wish it'd friggin' stop raining here in California!
     
    Hey, I've got Michelins on the Ferrari!

    T308
    (Who has all bases convered with Bridgestones on the S4...)


 

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