Ferrari: Is this group dead?
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Is this group dead?
No new messages for a couple days....
-Bob
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FERRARI - 14 Time World Champions
SCHUMACHER - 7 Time World Champion
FORZA FERRARI!!!
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Re: Is this group dead?
"Nick Beef" <net> wrote in message
news:comcast.giganews.com...
We've been out playing in our 'rraris ;-)
I.
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Re: Is this group dead?
Iain Miller wrote:
Yes, and watching in shock and awe as Renault grinds us into dust....
T308
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Re: Is this group dead?
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) wrote:
Yes, b ut remember this is the 2004 spec car and ferrari, the top
marque is forced to cope with these inferior rules changes. How can F1
call themselves the top racing class when competitors cannot change
their wheels and butyl rubber casings(not getting into the tire/tyre
debate here :-). These are the same fans who call NASCAR hick racing.
It's "Hick" racing not to be able to change wheel and butyl rubber
casings and engines every race. F1 has taken a huge step back towards
the stone age. Your asking Ferrari to behave like racing cavemen. The
new rules package was designed to favor teams other than Ferrari. But
the season has barely started and the F2005 has not ran yet. So let's
have this discussion at the end of the season when Maranello takes home
another championship...
And yes, we are busy driving our cars. I went to the South by
Southwest Music Fest in Austin and the weather was remarkable. I did
catch some rain:-( It was the first time to drive my 512 in the rain.
And I only broke traction a few times :-)
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Re: Is this group dead?
> Yes, b ut remember this is the 2004 spec car and ferrari, the top
Same rules for everyone.
There shouldn't be one - should be a single tyre manufacturer
Not sure how the current rules disadvantage Ferrari - they have the same
opportunities everone else does.
The F2005 is reported to be only 0.5 - 1s a lap quicker than the 2004M.
That's not enough to create parity with Renault (or Toyota).
Actually, the car is not the problem - its Bridgestone. Maybe they will do
better when they get to Europe & the temps are not so high but I'd expect
them to have their backsides handed to them again in Bahrain whichever car
they run. Ferrari are reaping the effects of driving all the other teams
away from Bridgestone - t'was a bit shortsighted because now there's nobody
else of any consequence left to help develop the tyres.
Try a set of Michelins ;-)
I.
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Re: Is this group dead?
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:27:58 -0600, Nick Beef
<net> wrote:
....What comes after interred?
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Re: Is this group dead?
In article <com>,
com says...
JV's career?
-Bob
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Re: Is this group dead?
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:45:08 -0600, Nick Beef
<net> wrote:
Try this:
http://www.tomyang.net/cars/startup.mp3
From a really great webpage: www.tomyang.net
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Re: Is this group dead?
On this I'll agree with you....I spent two evenings reading the entire
account of the restoration last week - fascinating.
I.
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Re: Is this group dead?
Iain Miller wrote:
Yes, but the strategy of "waiting until everything is perfect" with the
F2005 clearly has failed this time. In years with marginal changes to
the rule book, Ferrari could get away with it, and benefit from it, but
this year there was just too much change. Bridgestone's work has been
focused on the F5 and just wasn't going to work in a place like
Malaysia. Also, the lack of solid hot weather experience may hurt later
in the year in Germany and Hungary if it heats up there (which i hope it
doesn't since i'm going to those races!).
Yes, but those pesky European Union "anti-competition rules" get in the
way. Bridgestone and Michelin should both go and they should bring back
those POS Goodyears from 1999. Those were really bad tyres!
The rules accomplished something, they put Ferrari on the back foot, but
they certainly reduced the show. I don't even go on Friday's anymore.
Everything they've done has hurt the on-track spectator and reduced the
show for the Television viewer as well. Remember when Qualifying used
to be interesting? We'll never see this again (at least not for a while..)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/panton/AS9041.avi
I hope you're right, but this one's going to come down to the end I
believe. The current points structure doesn't favor comebacks, they
favor the long grind.
Tyres will be EVERYTHING this year. Some will be flattered by them on
some circuits and nowhere on others (Witness Toyota falling back through
the pack in OZ yet running with the best in Sepang).
I just wish it'd friggin' stop raining here in California!
Hey, I've got Michelins on the Ferrari!
T308
(Who has all bases convered with Bridgestones on the S4...)
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