Corvette: The GM copy machine

REInvestments wrote: 

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The statement about poor handling and slow is a complete shock to me! My
Uncle enjoyed racing as a hobby, somewhat like I do; and his enthusiasm
for well over a decade was to run MGB's in those slalom class races at
abandoned airports. It was a big thing to do in the 70's. I had a 73 Capri
RS2600S in the late 70's. I would not say it handled well by today's
standards, but it took 1st and 2nd at Nurembring and 6th and 7th at Sebring
that year. I also had a 1970 Grand Sport Stage I back in the mid 70's; and
that bad boy handled poorly. It would snap your neck with acceleration,
but god help you if you had to run it through a slalom course. You would be
better off on a Schwinn 3 speed banana seat bike.

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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:30:01 -0600, "Tom Jones" <net>
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When anything breaks in a Porch it is big time money to fix or replace
it.
 

Sure a Porch 911 sells for over $70Kas they do not sell base models.
They have less horsepower and yes the C-5 does save money on the
interior. That's a well known fact. You seem very proud of the fact
that Porch spends $10K on their interior. Fine if you want such an
expensive interior why not get one aftermarket for say $5K and you'd
have an interior that's nicer than the Porch.
The Z06 spanks the 911 and you have to pony up to the big Twin Turbo's
at around $120K to beat the Z06. Of course you get that $10K interior
in the 911 TT. Drink your Latte in style on the Autobahn.
 

Everyone know JD Powers is completely bought out. They run their
statics in order to prove whatever they want or didn't you trake any
of this in college?
Like someone said "Eat Shit!" "60 Billion flies can't be wrong!"
 

Proves you drive magazines and not cars. We've been through this dance
before. No one cares about Consumer Reports which starts out biased to
begin with.
Notice they don't care what the problem is with the car?
Plus the Stealerships TELL you how to fill out the forms so that
they'll look good. Vette owners are very picky about their cars. If
this is all such a big factor when its time for you to actually BUY
your first car, get a Honda Civic, very reliable and very boring.

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I first started racing in the mid '70s. I stopped in the late '90s. I
don't have time to dig through old SportsCar magazines to come up with all,
so here is the quick and dirty Internet info.

The Longest Day of Nelson Ledges began in 1979 and ran through 1996. That
is a lot longer than 2 years.

I believe you are referring to the Playboy United States Endurance Cup and
the Escort Endurance Cup professional series.
http://www.speedvisionwc.com/history.html (they think TLD began in '80, but
it actually was in '79 as a regional race.)

BTW, when you get into the professional series, things change drastically.
There is a lot of money involved, and as we all know, speed costs - how fast
do you want to go. Once professional, you can bet the "showroom stock" car
in the professional series behaved much differently than the one you bought
at the dealer and drove home. If you think not, you are quite naive. I
won't go into secrets of showroom stock racing.


Corvette won the National Championship for SS-GT in 1984. It won all six
races in 1985 of the endurance series and the national Championship for
SS-GT. In 1986 it won all seven endurance races. Porsche won the National
SS-GT. In 1987, it was banned for winning all four years straight without a
loss.

http://www.imagesofmotorsport.com/corvettetimeline.html

http://media.gm.com/division/chevrolet/corvette_50th/racing_milestones.htm

If those are too "biased", then here are the SCCA records:
http://www.scca.org/amateur/club_racing/runoffs/records/inactive.html

Porsche 944 Turbo wins 1987 SCCA, Showroom Stock GT National Championship

http://www.vpracing.com/Poster_Archives/1980/index3.html

I wonder why, with Corvette now banned by SCCA. Also note that is the 944
TURBO. It also won in '86, but the Corvettes took the Pro Endurance Series,
and at that point, winning the National Championship wasn't making any money
for them.

 
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Obviously, the 944s were the faster and better handling cars. Darn Corvettes
can't handle worth squat. That is why Corvette won all the Escort Series
races in '85 and the National championship.

Now just to see how you do, I will say I have driven Corvettes and Porsches
and a host of other cars. I will say that the 924 and 944 were possibly the
best handling cars I've ever driven. You were in complete control with the
cars being so perfectly balanced, you could do things with them in a corner
you would never expect any car to do. The 924 was pitifully underpowered
but the 944 was what the 924 should have been in the start.

And I quote from Motortrend's Road test

Still, several editors felt the interior style and trimmings were not up
to what's expected of a $75,000 car. Perhaps it's that so much of what's
inside is shared with the far less expensive Boxster, which hit the
market first, somehow making the Carrera look downscale in the process.
Porsche reportedly is working on an upgraded dash and cabin, so we must
not be the only ones who feel this way.


Once again, you should get a clue. Wander back where you came from.


Tom Jones wrote: 

"Tom Jones" <net> wrote in message
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If you really wanted a fun and exciting series, none will ever surpass the
Bilstein Rabbit Cup. It was bumper cars for adults. A half dozen Rabbits
bumper to bumper going into a turn, each lifting the inside rear tire as
they cornered. It was great. Even with all the bumping that went on, it
seemed liek all came out relatively unscathed.

 
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Every professional series tries to get a big sponsor. When they do, they
call the series by the sponsor's name. Ever hear of WINSTON Cup, KELLY GIRL
Series, ESCORT Endurance Series, and so on?

<< Funny how you have to resort to comparing GM's flagship car to Germanys
lowest quality car. >><BR><BR>

I'm not resorting to anything. We actually own those two cars, my C5 vert and
her New Beetle TDI.

I hate to say it, but my neighbor's Hyundai beats the VW in the reliability
department and cost even less.

<< If the Corvette was the superior car, nobody
would buy 911's. >><BR><BR>

Well, there's no accounting for the lack of taste.

Then again, the 911 is made by the same German corporation as the Beetle.....

Toureg - Cayenne.....




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<< Now for a real life GM quality vs German Quality:

You are going to have to give it up sooner or later. J.D. Powers survey 


BWAHAHAHAHA

You say real life quality comparison and quote a JD Power survey?

Son, it don't get no more real life than what's been sitting out in my driveway
for the last year!!!

Nice try on the troll junior. You can yapp from under the porch all you want,
but you can't run with the big dogs.


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and the m3's aswell


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