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Toyota Prius: Fuel capacity

  1. #1
    mark_digital©
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    Fuel capacity

    For three years my 2003 Prius has never taken more than 10.8 gallons for a
    single fill. It's only reached that amount once. I've filled the tank in all
    different climates and altitudes.
    Imagine my surprise while I'm watching the pump go beyond 11 gallons and
    finally click off at 12.395? I was pissed and confused too. I mean, the
    weather has been great. I've kept my speeds to less than 55 and many other
    things happened that should have resulted in fantastic mpg.
    The damn nozzle was all the way inside too!!! Was I driving on fumes??

    Anyway, not only did I say something to the station manager, I called the
    Weights and Measures guy here in town. He's going to check it out but
    noticed the station's last check was "recent" (6 months ago recent?). I
    also mentioned that another gas station (Sunoco) has pumps that jump up 3 or
    4 cents before any gas flows. Sounds like the gas is flowing back into their
    tanks (how convenient) after it shuts off.

    What do you think about this 12.4 gallon fill up? Has anyone ever ran out of
    fuel and filled the tank beyond 11.9 gallons?

    TIA
    mark_


  2. #2
    Bill
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    Re: Fuel capacity


    "mark_digital©" <com> wrote in message
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    I've been at one blinking bar and never managed to squeeze 10 gallons into
    mine. His pump is off and you can prove that by going back with a gas can
    that holds a measured amount of gas.



  3. #3
    PriusGeek
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    Re: Fuel capacity

    Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
    up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
    them, but I have to say the gas guage is not one of their high points.
    It tends to be erratic and just plain useless. Also, the gas tank
    bladder is affected by temperature and will accept different amounts of
    gas depending on how hot it is. When its cold out, its less flexible
    and accepts less fuel. Sometimes I can go 200+ miles before the first
    bar shuts off on the guage. Sometimes it will show 4 bars when I start
    it up and I can go 20 miles and get a ding with the flashing bar. Go
    figure. It is possible that your gas station has a problem, but don't
    discount the Prius completely.


    Bill wrote: 


  4. #4
    Michael
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    Re: Fuel capacity

    "PriusGeek" <com> wrote in message
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    Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
    up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
    them, but I have to say the gas guage is not one of their high points.
    It tends to be erratic and just plain useless. Also, the gas tank
    bladder is affected by temperature and will accept different amounts of
    gas depending on how hot it is. When its cold out, its less flexible
    and accepts less fuel. Sometimes I can go 200+ miles before the first
    bar shuts off on the guage. Sometimes it will show 4 bars when I start
    it up and I can go 20 miles and get a ding with the flashing bar. Go
    figure. It is possible that your gas station has a problem, but don't
    discount the Prius completely.


    I suspect much of the quirky behavior is in the programming of the display.
    It seems to go to great lengths to smooth out its response, even to the
    extent that you can add a couple gallons of gas and the display won't show
    it. When the level gets lower it seems to get more "real." If that means
    changing its mind from saying you had 1/3 tank to only one bar, so be it.

    Mike



  5. #5
    Bill
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    Re: Fuel capacity


    "PriusGeek" <com> wrote in message
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    Hmmm. I routinely put around 11gal in mine (and have put 12 in) with
    up to 2 bars left. I've had 2 Prii now (02 & 06) and love both of
    them, but I have to say the gas guage is not one of their high points.
    It tends to be erratic and just plain useless. Also, the gas tank
    bladder is affected by temperature and will accept different amounts of
    gas depending on how hot it is. When its cold out, its less flexible
    and accepts less fuel. Sometimes I can go 200+ miles before the first
    bar shuts off on the guage. Sometimes it will show 4 bars when I start
    it up and I can go 20 miles and get a ding with the flashing bar. Go
    figure. It is possible that your gas station has a problem, but don't
    discount the Prius completely.

    He put in 12.395 gallons, which exceeds the prius capacity.


    Bill wrote: 



  6. #6
    PriusGeek
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    Re: Fuel capacity

    Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
    I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
    OTOH, because the Prius fuel bladder is somewhat flexible and because
    it is possible to overfill any car, including the Prius, it is possible
    that you could get more than 11.9gal into it by pressurizing the
    bladder a bit and filling the "neck" to the tank before the pump shuts
    down. It could happen. ;-)


    Bill wrote: 


  7. #7
    Bill
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    Re: Fuel capacity


    "PriusGeek" <com> wrote in message
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    Well, that's certainly true vs. the published fuel capacity of 11.9gal
    I'm not saying that there might not be an isue with the gas station.
    OTOH, because the Prius fuel bladder is somewhat flexible and because
    it is possible to overfill any car, including the Prius, it is possible
    that you could get more than 11.9gal into it by pressurizing the
    bladder a bit and filling the "neck" to the tank before the pump shuts
    down. It could happen. ;-)

    From what I understand, the fuel bladder is inside a rigid steel container.
    I'm thinking the capacity is figured with the bladder stretched to conform
    to it's confinement. But you may be right, the filler neck might hold 3/4
    gallon and he may have shut the car off just as it was running out of gas.



  8. #8
    mark_digital©
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    Re: Fuel capacity


    "Bill" <now> wrote in message
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    The nozzle was all the way inside the filler, and once it automatically shut
    off at 12.395 gallons that was that. I probably would have been spitting
    bullets if I had waited another few seconds and it took more in the filler
    neck.
    Speaking of the gas gauge bars, I figured the first bar would disappear
    after many more miles than I'm used to because of this fill up. Fat chance.
    First bar disappeared after 90 miles. I've seen it disappear after 130 miles
    many times. Hmmm... 90 from 130 is 40. Maybe I was still short 3/4 of a
    gallon from a totally full tank.
    I should be hearing from the W&M inspector soon.

    mark_


  9. #9
    Bill
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    Re: Fuel capacity


    "mark_digital©" <com> wrote in message
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    Were you at one blinking bar when you pulled in? I've got to believe that
    pump was off.



  10. #10
    mark_digital©
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    Re: Fuel capacity


    "Bill" <now> wrote in message
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    Yes. I drove an additional 15 miles so I could get closer to home before
    filling.
    Yesterday morning I drove by the gas station and the two nozzles from that
    one pump were booted (locked out). Now its a question as to how much they
    were in error.

    About a month ago another pump at the same station failed to stop and
    gasoline gushed out all over the ground and subsequently on the bottom of my
    shoes. I told the manager and his response was simply to ask for the full
    amount. No compensation. Yet it didn't dawn on me afterwards there was a
    reason speedy-dri was all over the area when I pulled up to the pump and got
    out. So my advice to anyone else reading this is avoid a pump that has some
    sort of absorbent on the ground, the station managers and attendants are too
    inconsiderate to shut it down.
    In the old days it was OK to let the pump be used because it was usually the
    customer's fault for gas on the ground. But not nowadays, unless someone
    filled a gas can or something else other than a vehicle.
    mark_



 

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