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    CyberWolf
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    Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    I once talked with my uncle and my brother about a late 90's Madza
    Miata. My uncle said that the car has a 4 cylinder engine. However, you can
    take a 3.0 302 cu. in. V8 engine from a late 90's Ford Crown Victoria and
    put it in a late 90's Madza Miata and the engine fits in the car on the
    drive shaft perfectly. I don't know if this is true or not. Does anyone
    know the truth behind this and correct me if I'm wrong.

    ~CyberWolf



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    Thomas
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    The 5.0 is a very compact engine and will fit in a lot of vehicles. Will it fit
    in a Miata? Do not know, but I suspect it will. The Sunbeam Tiger is a good
    example. Very small British car with a Ford 302 sold through Chrysler. I believe
    it was Bob Glidden that had a Ford 460 powered Opal GT on the NHRA circuit. That
    would be the very opposite of the spectrum, but the point is if you have the
    time, funds and skills anything is possible.
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    geewhiz@bob2000antispam.com
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    I _was_ going to leave this one alone, but now that the misinformation is
    sneaking in...it's time for straightening you guys out.

    The 5.0 in the Miata is a very common swap, and even has/had a company doing
    them.

    Monster Miata: http://monstermiata.com/

    The Sunbeam Tiger (I used to own one) was initially a product of a British-owned
    company, the Rootes Group. Beginning in 1964, it was offered with the Ford 260
    2v V8. In 1967, it was offered with the 289 4v. Never with a 302, although it
    is a straight swap. The Rootes Group was purchased by Chrysler in 1967, but the
    318 wouldn't fit, and Chrysler killed the Tiger.

    As far as Bob Glidden driving a 460-powered Opel GT, I seriously doubt it,
    although I am not 100 percent sure. I do know he had a 427 powered 64 Fairlane
    Thunderbolt and many 351C powered cars in the 70's, but since Bob was a Ford
    mechanic at a Ford dealership, it is very unlikely he ever had an Opel GT.

    Gerard
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    Thomas
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata


    <com> wrote in message
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    302 is the same physical size as the 289, so the use of 302 is generic. Chrysler
    did eventually kill the Tiger, but not right away. It did market the car.
     
    Fairlane 
    I said I believe it was Bob Glidden, meaning it could have been some one else.
    But some one was running a 460 powered Opal GT, and I am still under the
    impression it was him.
     
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    Backyard
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    Thomas Moats opined in news:supernews.com:

     

    It very well COULD have been.... remember this was around the time of the
    genesis of the "Funny Car" and that's where Glidden excelled.
    But the classes that SHOW the Opel GT from that era are "{class}-Altered"
    and "{Class}- Gas".

    I did a search and did not come up with a Glidden / Opel connection but
    a nostalgia prints site shows a Panella & Miner Opel Gasser (Funny config)

    http://www.precision-illustration.com/

    And the KS Pittman Opel listed as Altered but part of the Gasser family..

    These WERE funny cars... the bodies were fiberglas replica

    I KNOW Gasser's used straight axles... and believe Altered's did too.

    Remember the 64 Thunderbolts and Cyclones were "A F/X" factory experimental

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    Zex0s
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:45:53 -0400, Thomas Moats <me@net> wrote:
     

    I have seen a Miata with a HO 5.0L v8.. he had to rebuild some of the
    engine compartment (shallowed the wheel wells slightly, and had to lessen
    his steering travel to make it fit) so yea, it is possible

    Owner of the beast was the shop manager of a no-longer-in-business Mazda
    dealership..

    Just remember, that car's tranny was designed for a 4cyl, and the increased
    torque of the V8 can likely cause some serious damage to the rearend if you
    dont also do something there.


    Chuck



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    Falcoon
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    thunderbolts and cyclones were B F/X cars
    the A F/X was a falcon

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    Thomas
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    He also ran a Plymouth Arrow in 79. In 98 and final season behind the wheel, a
    Pontiac. As to the Opal, still not sure but I'm leaning that direction.
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    FordBlueBlood
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    I saw a write-up in I believe 5.0 Magazine about the monster miata. They
    first bolted the 5.0 straight in using the rest of the Mazda drive line but
    the car was geared way too low with that configuration. So for drivability
    it is not a straight forward swap.
    <com> wrote in message
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    geewhiz@bob2000antispam.com
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    Re: Ford 3.0 302 V8 engine in a Madza Miata

    Opel---Opel---O-P-E-L---Opel----Opel...I thought that maybe after seeing a few
    other guys spell it correctly, that you'd notice...

    Opel

    Gerard
     


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