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Mazda Miata: Fading paint on one panel

  1. #1
    Eric
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    Fading paint on one panel

    Hi all,

    I've got a red 1991 MX5 (I'm in the UK, hence MX5 rather than Miata :-)) and
    the driver's door panel is fading significantly more than the rest of the
    car. I bought it just over a year ago and don't have its full service
    history, so don't know whether at some point that door was replaced or
    painted which could explain the different fading. Does anyone have any
    suggestions as to what to do? I've tried looking for some sort of red polish
    I could use to make the paintwork look more even, but all the polish and wax
    I've found all seem to be transparent. Any suggestions are very welcome!

    Thanks

    Eric

    http://nll.co.uk/ericbaber/private/mx5/



  2. #2
    Lanny
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    In article <de>,
    "Eric Baber" <com> wrote:
     

    More likely, that door still has its original paint, and the other
    panels have been repainted after collision repair.

    I see this on my own red '94. The Meguiar's multi-step regimen has
    brought back the shine, and all panels now match. You'll need an
    abrasive cleaner to remove the dead paint, a polish to restore color and
    depth, and a wax to protect the shine from the elements. Don't be
    alarmed when your rag turns red--it's just the dead paint coming off.

    It may take three hours to do the whole process, but you'll be amazed at
    the result.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  3. #3
    Eric
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    > I see this on my own red '94. The Meguiar's multi-step regimen has 

    Sounds scary!! How does paint go "dead"? And what's underneath? I've always
    assumed that when you take off a layer of paint you're left with plain metal
    underneath, but from what you say it sounds like there'll be healthy paint
    underneath instead, is that right?
     

    I tried polishing the car hoping that would do the trick and that's what
    happened - the rag turned somewhat red. I didn't think to look whether any
    more paint came off that panel than any of the others. (The polishing helped
    for about a week by the way, then it went back to the way it was).
     

    If it saves the cost of respraying the panel or even the whole car that's
    definitely worth it.

    Thanks Lanny!

    Eric



  4. #4
    Eric
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    > I see this on my own red '94. The Meguiar's multi-step regimen has 

    I've had a look at the maeguiar.co.uk website and think that the following
    sequence might do the trick, following your advice:

    http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/cgi-bin/catalog.pl?cat=BODY_PAINT#2 - Medallion
    Premium Paint Cleaner
    http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/cgi-bin/catalog.pl?cat=BODY_POLISH#2 - Hand
    Polish
    http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/cgi-bin/catalog.pl?cat=BODY_WAX#2 - Polymer
    Sealant

    Does that sound about right?

    Thanks very much!

    Eric



  5. #5
    Lanny
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    In article <de>,
    "Eric Baber" <com> wrote:
     

    That sounds good. I wonder how much difference exists between their
    various products?

    I use the pro-grade Mirror Glaze stuff in the tan bottles: #9 Swirl
    Remover (you might need something more aggressive the first time) and
    #26 Liquid Wax.

    I just ran out of #26. I think I'll try the NXT Tech Wax next time.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  6. #6
    Chris
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    I believe you've got it right. Maguires makes pretty consistantly good
    products. They even have a 'clay bar' treatment if you're into endless
    hours of work for a better look. The problem with the polish only treatment
    that you did is, it only took off part of the dead (oxidized) paint and then
    put it's revitalizing oils into that somewhat less dead paint remaining,
    when the bulk of the oils goes away the truth is revealed. That paint
    cleaner will be more 'agressive' and the plan is to get down to good solid
    paint. The amount you're removing is measured in microns, not likely you'll
    go thru however, use some common sense in how far you take it.

    There may even be an extensive article (IIRC) on rejuvinating the miata red
    paint on miata.net, the results were pretty amazing.

    Keep in mind the 'pretty' parts of your car could have been repainted with a
    clearcoat system. You'll know if no red comes off in the cleaning stage,
    that would change everything for those panels.

    Chris
    92BB&T

    "Eric Baber" <com> wrote in message
    news:de... 



  7. #7
    Leon
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    "Chris D'Agnolo" <net> wrote:
     

    Even more amazing is that people continue to buy red Miatas when
    white ones are so much better looking even new and don't fade.

    Obviously, at some time immemorial, a red sports car was used as a
    car for a fire chief (red is preferred for such jobs since [1] its
    inherent drag prevents eager fire fighters from exceeding the speed
    limit too much; [2] it makes people want to get out of the way;
    [3] it colors well next to the fire) and people never got around
    to questioning whether red was really such a hot idea for a sports
    car not used to attend fires.

    Some even put loud horns on their non-fire duty red Miatas...

    Leon

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  8. #8
    Chris
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    Ya, but they do peal don't they! I'm not sure what is so wierd about white
    paint but it's given more than one mfr problems. I'm thinking of hundreds of
    GM trucks and other products along with a bunch of white miatas that I've
    seen divorcing their paint (only the early ones, don't remember seeing any
    newer ones giving it up).

    Neither can compete with the speed of the oh-so-Brilliant Black!
    Unfortunately, my cars nose oxidizes as quick as anything I've ever seen,
    regardless of what I try on it.

    Chris
    92BB&T

    "Leon van Dommelen" <net> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    red 



  9. #9
    Eric
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    > Even more amazing is that people continue to buy red Miatas when 

    Yes, but red ones go faster, obviously.

    ;-)

    Eric



  10. #10
    jchase
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    Re: Fading paint on one panel

    Eric Baber wrote: 

    You know, there's a reason Henry Ford made the Model T only in black- it
    was the least fragile color choice.

    Reds (including oranges and purples) have always been a challenge to
    paint makers as the pigments available are somewhat less UV-resistant.

    I agree with everyone above- the faded door on the car in question is
    probably the only original paint.

    Joe
    Silver '99



 

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