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Ford Explorer: Elementary Question (but not for me)

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    Tim
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    Elementary Question (but not for me)

    Dropped by the dealership this morning to see if they could check info my
    hesitation problem when putting on the gas (after the first start in the
    morning) and see why I get an intermittent rough idle... They found some
    service releases about this and a subsequent TSB about it, to reprogram the PCM
    with a newer version...

    But the thought occurred to me... what if I had gone in after my factory
    warranty expires (I'm at 31,250 miles as of now). Would I be charged for the
    reprogramming when it's a TSB? (labor?), or would that be a no-charge item (such
    as a recall).

    Thanks

    Tim



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    Anthony
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    Re: Elementary Question (but not for me)

    Just because something is covered by a TSB, does not mean that Ford will pay
    to repair it after the vehicle warranty expires.

    If the dealer supports you, you sometimes can get so-called goodwill money
    to cover part or all of the cost of the repair. I had that for several
    TSB-related items on my 1992 Explorer, including the exhaust system and
    engine head gaskets. Ford refused to cover my rusted-through quarter panels,
    but it DID offer me $2,000 off a new Explorer (after I complained to various
    executive offices - I have not bought a new Explorers, however.)

    One interesting thing to consider is whether some TSBs can be viewed as
    evidence of a defect that could, in some states, lead to a breach of
    warranty claim under the implied warranty provisions of the uniform
    commercial code. Some states do not permit manufacturers or retailers to
    disclaim the implied warranty. And while some states fix the duration of
    implied warranty to fives years, others, such as Connecticut, do not allow
    any time limits. I'd conclude, therefore, that, no matter how old the
    vehicle is, one might have a cause of action if it can be proven that the
    defect came with the vehicle when new.

    I've often thought, for example, that owners of 91-93 models with rusted
    quarter panels (I just had mine fixed - $1,300) should consider a
    class-action suit, citing the FORD TSB that acknowledges the defect.

    As far as safety-related issues, those are covered.


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    Robert
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    Re: Elementary Question (but not for me)

    If you decide to go ahead with a suit on those quarter panels (dogleg panels
    on mine) count me in...


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    Anthony
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    Re: Elementary Question (but not for me)

    Good to know, Robert. I was thinking of sending them a letter of demand and
    seeing what happens. I'll post back if I decide to do it. By the way, the
    repair came out pretty good, using aftermarket ones that someone here - was
    that you? - pointed me to not so long ago. Mortorhaven, I think. I decided
    not to go after the OEM ones in Canada that Jim Warman found for me. I'll
    post before and after photos soon.


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    Robert
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    Re: Elementary Question (but not for me)

    Cool... well, I did post some links about quarter panels & dogleg panels
    for you. If any were helpful, I'm glad. Would love to see those pics...


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    Anthony
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    Re: Elementary Question (but not for me)

    Thanks Robert

    I'll put the dog leg pics on my Web site and post a link here (in a separate
    thread) in a couple of days. I still have to take the after shots.


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