Ford Explorer: Elementary Question (but not for me)
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Elementary Question (but not for me)
Dropped by the dealership this morning to see if they could check info my
hesitation problem when putting on the gas (after the first start in the
morning) and see why I get an intermittent rough idle... They found some
service releases about this and a subsequent TSB about it, to reprogram the PCM
with a newer version...
But the thought occurred to me... what if I had gone in after my factory
warranty expires (I'm at 31,250 miles as of now). Would I be charged for the
reprogramming when it's a TSB? (labor?), or would that be a no-charge item (such
as a recall).
Thanks
Tim
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Re: Elementary Question (but not for me)
Just because something is covered by a TSB, does not mean that Ford will pay
to repair it after the vehicle warranty expires.
If the dealer supports you, you sometimes can get so-called goodwill money
to cover part or all of the cost of the repair. I had that for several
TSB-related items on my 1992 Explorer, including the exhaust system and
engine head gaskets. Ford refused to cover my rusted-through quarter panels,
but it DID offer me $2,000 off a new Explorer (after I complained to various
executive offices - I have not bought a new Explorers, however.)
One interesting thing to consider is whether some TSBs can be viewed as
evidence of a defect that could, in some states, lead to a breach of
warranty claim under the implied warranty provisions of the uniform
commercial code. Some states do not permit manufacturers or retailers to
disclaim the implied warranty. And while some states fix the duration of
implied warranty to fives years, others, such as Connecticut, do not allow
any time limits. I'd conclude, therefore, that, no matter how old the
vehicle is, one might have a cause of action if it can be proven that the
defect came with the vehicle when new.
I've often thought, for example, that owners of 91-93 models with rusted
quarter panels (I just had mine fixed - $1,300) should consider a
class-action suit, citing the FORD TSB that acknowledges the defect.
As far as safety-related issues, those are covered.
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Anthony Giorgianni
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If you decide to go ahead with a suit on those quarter panels (dogleg panels
on mine) count me in...
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Good to know, Robert. I was thinking of sending them a letter of demand and
seeing what happens. I'll post back if I decide to do it. By the way, the
repair came out pretty good, using aftermarket ones that someone here - was
that you? - pointed me to not so long ago. Mortorhaven, I think. I decided
not to go after the OEM ones in Canada that Jim Warman found for me. I'll
post before and after photos soon.
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Cool... well, I did post some links about quarter panels & dogleg panels
for you. If any were helpful, I'm glad. Would love to see those pics...
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Thanks Robert
I'll put the dog leg pics on my Web site and post a link here (in a separate
thread) in a couple of days. I still have to take the after shots.
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