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Toyota: Echo Hatchback observations

  1. #1
    Tegger®
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    Echo Hatchback observations

    Recently, while I was hanging around the dealership waiting for the Tercel
    to be ready, I checked out the Echo Hatchbacks sitting there.

    All I have to say is, well, they're...SMALL. *Really* small. About the size
    of a Ford Festiva or even smaller than that. I'm not sure I'd like being
    next to a semi in one of these.

    They are made in Japan. Cargo capacity looks virtually non existent, with
    the back seats pretty much right up against the rear hatch. Might get a few
    grocery bags in , but not much else. Hood is only about 18" long, with the
    engine seemingly buried under the windshield. Interior is decently roomy,
    and I assume it's identical to the Echo sedan. I fit well, and I'm 6' 2".

    I hung around the dealership for two hours and saw lots of cars being taken
    for test drives, but no Echo Hatchbacks. Wonder how they're selling?

    My opinion: Good car for an urban woman who never carries much more than
    groceries.

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    TeGGeR®

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    Jay
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    Re: Echo Hatchback observations

    It's not (just) how big the Hatchback is, but how you use it! The Hatchback
    certainly would be a poor choice if you need to carry 4 or more passengers
    and their luggage. OTOH, in my particular situation, 99% of the time my
    wife and I are the only occupants of the car, so the Hatchback will provide
    plenty of cargo room.

    I'm got a 5-speed Hatchback RS 5-door with the air, cruise, and keyless
    entry package, plus the performance exhaust system, on order. Although it
    is much smaller than the Subaru Impreza 2.5RS coupe I traded in, the cargo
    space in the Hatchback is more useable. Although the Impreza's trunk is much
    bigger, the rear seat doesn't fold down (and there is no pass-through), so
    longer objects won't fit. Getting people or things into the rear seat will
    be a lot easier with the Hatchback's 4 doors than with the Impreza's 2
    doors.

    I should mention that my wife and I have done several cross-country trips in
    our Miata, so by comparison, the Hatchback's interior space and cargo
    capacity are huge. Based on my road test, and comments from Echo owners,
    the Hatchback will be quite comfortable on long trips.

    I don't know what Hatchback sales figures are like, but I have seen quite a
    few on the road here in Winnipeg already. The 5 speed Hatchback RS is in
    short supply. Whether that's because demand for the RS is high or fewer of
    that model are being produced, I can't say.

    Jay Goldstein
    Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada



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    Darkblood
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    Re: Echo Hatchback observations

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    From: "Tegger®" <invalid>
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    Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:19 PM
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    The Problem I'm finding with ECHOes in general is dealers would rather use
    their precious lot space for more expensive cars, so they have maybe one or
    two ECHOes on site to test, if any at all. They really should have more of
    those around. They really are good cars.

    For more information about people who love their ECHOes, please visit:
    http://echofans.net

    Darkblood®



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    Neil
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    Re: Echo Hatchback observations

    "Darkblood" <com> wrote in message news:<glp8b.930$gnilink.net>... 

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    Small, cheap cars = small profits.

    I notice locally that Toyota dealers hardly advertise the Echo at all.
    It hasn't been a very popular car and hasn't sold well to the market
    it was intended for, namely young people. Instead, most Echo buyers
    are 40-something. Toyota, like a lot of other companies, including
    Cadillac, wants to reduce the average age of their buyers. Toyota will
    pursue that goal more aggressively with the new Scion models.
     

    Thanks. I don't own an Echo, but am always attracted to small, cheap
    cars. If I was in the market, I'd consider an Echo.

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    Tegger®
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    Re: Echo Hatchback observations

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    Same here. Newspaper advertising here seems to be heavily weighted to the
    Highlander, 4Runner, Sienna and Camry.

    When we bought the '99 Tercel, I noticed that even though the dealership
    had two Echo Hatchbacks in their showroom, almost all the activity was
    centered around the Sienna, Camry and Corolla. Nobody even sat in the Echo
    Hatchbacks during my hours hanging around there.

     


    Yup. Seems like that here as well. most people I see driving Echoes are
    older (my age or more). Have NOT seen even one of those Echo Hatchbacks on
    the road yet.

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    TeGGeR®

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    Nick
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    Re: Echo Hatchback observations

    Neil <com> wrote in message
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    I've seen a few Echo hatchbacks here... popular with the elderly. Easy to
    park and easy to use as a roadblock for other road users... grrrr. :-)

    Sweet little rides but like most Japanese cars in their class just a little
    tall for my liking - I'm not a fan of a high centre of gravity.


    Nick.




  7. #7
    Neil
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    Re: Echo Hatchback observations

    "Tegger®" <invalid> wrote in message news:<11.168.195>... 

    LOL! Hadn't thought of my age like an odometer, but being middle aged,
    I have an inkling of what you mean.

    Seriously, a car that allows the driver to sit upright, as opposed to
    the more reclining position racier cars offer, makes sense to me. BTW,
    I used to have a Porsche, and I noticed that the seating position was
    upright, unlike many other sports cars. Sitting upright makes sense to
    me.

    I also know several people who are definitely over 6' and some of
    these people have trouble finding cars with adequate headroom. I can
    remember back in the 1970s when some of the Japanese cars barely had
    room for a 6-footer, but the Japanese are doing better about that now;
    now that I think about it, the several 6'+ I know all drive Japanese
    cars.


 

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