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Mercedes-Benz: E300 Diesel Hesitates

  1. #1
    DCM
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    E300 Diesel Hesitates

    My 97 E300 Diesel with 87 K miles on it is developing strange problem.
    At speed between 55 and 60 Mph - app.. 2200 rpm sometimes the engine
    hesitates and the car looses acceleration - seems like a momentary fuel
    starvation. If I push the accelerator, the problem disappears and the car
    accelerates fine. The problem appeared first in July on my way back from the
    Montreal F1 GP. Couple of weeks ago it happened again and it's getting
    worse - it happens more and more.
    Does anybody have any idea what could be the reason? Fuel pump? Algae? I
    haven't done any algae treatment because I haven't noticed any traces of it.
    The car has been meticulously maintained and fuel filters changed every 20K
    miles. If it's algae how could I verify it and what needs to be done?
    Could the transmission be slipping at that particular speed?

    Thanks

    D.



  2. #2
    T.G.
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    Re: E300 Diesel Hesitates

    I believe this is a non-turbo engine, right? If so, that eliminates the
    possibility of the turbo, wastegate etc.
    So that leaves only the fuel system and its controls. You say the engine
    hesitates upon light acceleration at speed - much like a "flat spot" in
    a gas engine.

    Since diesels don't have "flat spots" I suggest the accelerator linkage
    should first be examined for looseness - somewhere. The accelerator is
    attached to a cable, check the security of the cables ends - that the
    cable's case is attached firmly to the mounting point and then that the
    cable's ends' ball and socket are not binding. Follow the linkage all
    the way to the injection pump for IMHO the problem is in the linkage,
    not the engine.

    To answer your algae question, a black paper element inside the fuel
    filter is the symptom of algae. The older cars used a small clear
    plastic fuel filter, perhaps yours does too.


  3. #3
    DCM
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    Re: E300 Diesel Hesitates

    You are correct - the engine is non-turbo. The throttle linkage looks
    perfect - tight and smooth. The ball joints were lubricated a month ago and
    upon inspection today the cable and case look and feel excellent.
    The fuel filter is sealed in metal housing - much like regular oil filter,
    but during the weekend I'll split it open and look inside for the signs you
    mention. Will also clean the injectors and fuel system with Lubro Moly
    diesel purge.
    Thanks for your help! You posts are always most informative and up to the
    point!

    D.

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    Satish
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    Re: E300 Diesel Hesitates

    I thought ALL diesels hesitate.

    Just kidding.

    Algae in the fuel tank and filters sounds familiar.

    Satish



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  5. #5
    T.G.
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    Re: E300 Diesel Hesitates

    I reread your first post and have second thoughts - but no remorse.

    When driving at a 60 MPH constant speed the engine suddenly lags but the
    lag can be overcome by pressing the accelerator.

    That means there's lots of fuel to the injectors or the lag couldn't be
    overcome by accelerating the engine. It's not a fuel problem.

    I suspect the emission control system which, on a diesel, is mainly the
    EGR valve. As a test I'd plug its line and see if the problem showed
    itself. If not, the controls for the EGR would be my first suspect for
    after 87K miles a bit of dirt could have lodged in a vacuum line or
    control valve or a rubber connection may have split causing erratic EGR
    operation.

    Another thought.

    This car has a 5 speed electronic transmission with a lock-up torque
    converter. The car might FEEL like the engine was lagging if the lock-up
    disengaged, but the engine is not the culprit. If the lock-up feature
    failed, the engine's RPMs would rise about 3% to maintain the car's
    speed. The lock-up feature gives one a "direct drive" feel, especially
    in 5th gear which is an "overdrive" ratio. I own a '97 E320 and can
    imagine how this would feel but have no personal experience with a
    lock-up failure. The test of this theory is if the engine's RPMs rise or
    fall when you perceive it lagging. A RPM rise indicating lock-up
    failure, falling RPMs true engine lag, perhaps due to EGR.

    So those are a couple of ideas for your consideration, I hope one or the
    other solves the problem.

    Tom



  6. #6
    DCM
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    Re: E300 Diesel Hesitates - Solution

    Yesterday I replaced the air filter, the fuel filter and pre-filter. Run a
    bottle of Lubro Moly diesel purge through the engine. Took apart and cleaned
    the air intake manifold and the air control valve and sensor. The difference
    was surprising - now the engine runs very quiet and smooth. There is
    noticeable improvement in power and acceleration.
    I haven't checked the air filter for a little bit less than a year (about
    15K miles) and it was in surprisingly bad shape - very dirty and deformed. I
    don't know the reason. Obviously should be checked more often.
    Just FYI while at it I decided to replace the fuel return lines. Good move -
    while taking the old ones out they were breaking and falling apart in my
    hands.

    Now everything is back to normal.
    Thanks to the group and Mr. Lambach for all the valuable advice.

    D.

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